Re: Perl's lack of 'in' keyword

--- On Wed, 8/10/08, Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smart-match smells too much of DWIMmery for me to be comfortable with it. Does calling it polymorphism help? Heh :) ++ Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http

Re: Perl's lack of 'in' keyword

it. Beer. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6

Turbo-Charged Test Suites slides

As promised, the slides are at: http://www.slideshare.net/Ovid/turbo-charged-test-suites-presentation/ http://is.gd/3EbU Sorry the talk was so rushed. As mentioned, it was originally a 45 minute talk. Happy to answer questions if anyone has 'em. Probably better to ask them at use.perl

Re: Learning Regression Function / Neural Networks

maintained because there are no bug reports but that might be because no one is using it any more. It has an examples/ directory with a couple of smallish programs to give you an idea of how it works. However, I'm not an AI expert, so the Perl-AI mailing list is a better resource than I. Cheers, Ovid

Re: Unlimited?

home and find out they have a termite on a leash. It's heartbreaking. Or we could just pay attention to the f***ing truth in advertising laws. (Do we have any?) Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid

Re: testing

' statements in a single test. I get tired of seeing 'use_ok $module or die' getting needlessly duplicated throughout a test suite, particularly since it's so easy to get wrong. Here's a basic test script to find all modules and ensure you can use them: http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/37797 Cheers

Re: Perl is dead

the ass of the upstarts. Until you look at a graph of relative job growth. For Ruby, Perl, PHP and Python, they're all trending up. We're flat. http://is.gd/abyq Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid

Re: Perl is dead

- Original Message according to the info on the site, perl skills offer higher rates than most of the top 20 skills. Consider economics. If it's true that their are fewer Perl programmers (http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/38018) but we still need them to maintain code

Re: Perl is dead

, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6

Re: Perl is dead

for trying. Most people don't get that far. I'm all for folks trying new and interesting stuff. Failures can be just as educational as successes (witness pseudo-hashes). Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid

Re: Perl is dead

allows you to scrap most of the current 1995-era functionality/look-and-feel without sacrificing content? Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl

Re: *.perl.org facelift

a start. Out of curiosity, have you spoken with pudge about this? He hasn't seemed interested, but I could be wrong. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com

Re: Perl is Alive!

? Blindly assuming marketing is bullshit doesn't help, just as blindly assuming it's a savior doesn't help. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl

Santa came early this year. I want to shoot him.

suspect that breathing heavy would make these tests pass. http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/38138 It's days like this which *really* make me pine for Ruby. Just sayin' Ho, ho, ho, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org

Re: Santa came early this year. I want to shoot him.

- Original Message It's days like this which *really* make me pine for Ruby. Ruby has no heisenbugs? None that I've seen. Ho, oh, no, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter

Re: Santa came early this year. I want to shoot him.

about now. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6

Re: Introduction to Perl for non-programming Mac folk

the language and claim it's so stupid that it can't do X and the RTFM jerks will condescendingly prove you're wrong by replying with only a few lines of code. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal

Re: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009

from my dependency on oxygen. There, broken. Got that over with. Of course, if I die within a year, I'll have kept my resolution. Hmm ...) Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter

Re: Dim Sum Sunday

? Does anyone feel like joining us? Hi Piers, My friend Gabrielle just flew into the UK yesterday and as we were trying to figure out our plans for today, I saw this email. Might be late notice, but if you'd like to call me at 07908 953 531, we'd be happy to join you. Cheers, Ovid/Curtis

Re: Dim Sum Sunday

- Original Message From: Ovid publiustemp-londo...@yahoo.com My friend Gabrielle just flew into the UK yesterday and as we were trying to figure out our plans for today, I saw this email. Might be late notice, but if you'd like to call me at 07908 953 531, we'd be happy to join

Re: Have at it

, I've got to say that for most Perl programmers, Moose is lovely because it makes declaring a simple class with a constructor and getter/setters easy. Just about everything else if fluff for most. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog

Re: Have at it

merely be the example language. If I get some tuits, I'll start writing something up. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki

Re: Have at it

/the_authenticationfairy.html for one example of an OO issue which is important, but not explained well. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki

Re: [OT] Perl woes

want a fatal error instead of a warnings: use warnings FATAL = 'numeric'; See 'perldoc perllexwarn' for more info. Cheers, Ovid

Re: Have at it

drag and drop to create our Perl programs. No kidding :( I just blogged about this (this example is on a DBIx::Class-derived class): http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/38356 One database table with 8 fields, two of which should be populated via triggers (but which were thoughtfully shoved

Re: [OT] Perl woes and types

cannot assign data with a different type to it. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6

Re: [OT] Perl woes and types

typing don't have much meaning there. They only have meaning to those who make up their own definitions :) Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl

Re: London.pm Dim sum Thursday 1pm: Bamboo Basket

/dining?category=2020retailer=35482 I forgot to say that we are celebrating the new year of the Ox. Who's coming? Léon I'll be there and possibly one or two others from the team I'm on. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http

Perl on JVM Slides

Hi all, Last night's tech talks had a very interesting talk about Perl on the JVM. Are those slides available anywhere? Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http

Re: Beautiful is better than ugly

where the background fades down into a light blue. That being said, it's a nice start. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki

Re: Technical meeting: Looking for speakers 30th July

minute slots. Kind of rough if there are a few 20 minute talks proposed. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http

Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

, too. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6

Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

jokes comparing some tiny aspect of various languages, all edited into one video. I see Mike Whitaker already has ideas. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http

Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

- Original Message From: Christopher Jones c.jo...@ucl.ac.uk Are you seriously asking London Perl M[[ou]]ngers to pretend to be Java programmers? And to volunteer??? Hey, some of my best friends are cross-dressers. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com

Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

- Original Message From: Struan Donald str...@exo.org.uk Isn't this just likely to turn out to be an exercise in poking a load of wasps nests? I certainly hope so. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http

Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

- Original Message From: Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com I have a DV cam, tripod and white wall. Can blag a pro mike. All sounds awesome except for the white wall. Would be nice to find interesting settings which make people think WTF? Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book

Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

- Original Message From: Chisel Wright chi...@herlpacker.co.uk On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 08:26:30AM -0700, Ovid wrote: Python (Japanese): I'm Ruby. Why is Java pretending to be someone else? Er, how the heck did I miss that? Evidently my attempting to figure out how

Re: Anyone hiring at the moment?

the highest crime rate in London. Who would have thought? http://maps.met.police.uk/ Oh, if you do move here, I'll be on hand to buy you a whiskey (port finished Glenmorangie is my current favorite, thus, that's what I'll inflict on you). Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http

Re: Anyone hiring at the moment?

firing employees and moving is such a stupid idea that it borders on willful negligence. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki

Re: Anyone hiring at the moment?

and determined to not let happen). I only lived there briefly, but it was a lovely city. Would have stayed were the circumstances right. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter

Re: Anyone hiring at the moment?

the rest. I could have cried. Next time, I'll buy her whiskey which comes in a soft plastic bottle. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl

Re: Anyone hiring at the moment?

of yourself. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6

Re: [ANNOUNCE] London Perl Mongers Technical Meeting 24th September 2009

an indication of numbers, we're not being strict this time. Just turn up! Leon Excellent! See you folks tonight, then. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl

404

This page: http://londonpmtech.appspot.com/ Has a view source link at the top. It returns a 404. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl

Re: Anyone hiring at the moment?

/news_article.aspx?storyid=254168 That assumes you live in Hawaii, of course. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http

Re: Anyone hiring at the moment?

was homeless was in Hawaii, I have to agree. It's a far scarier place than people know ... unless they're a tourist and have plenty of cash on hand. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter

Re: Anyone hiring at the moment?

. This is the gustatorial equivalent to if you lie often enough, people will start to believe it (the *real* Fox News motto).. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl

Re: Anyone drinking at the moment?

the microbreweries in Portland are fantastic, but they generally don't ship over here. The best beers are Belgian. After that, I might vote German. Might. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter

He'brew

/HEBREW/ Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly..com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6

Re: He'brew

- Original Message From: lesl...@herlug.org.uk lesl...@herlug.org.uk I don't know this beer but I think you should get along to a proper (UK) Beer Festival and try the porters. I've already been to a CAMRA beer festival and was quite pleased. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book

Re: He'brew

next time I'm wandering down there. Thanks Avi! Google has failed me here. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http

Re: Payment Providers

know nothing about it other than the annoying fact that I've forgotten my password for it, could someone explain why its broken? Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http

Re: Payment Providers

. Cheers, Ovid (the hippie) -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6

Sending $US to the US

. Anyone happen to know a less expensive way to send, via mail, US dollars to the US, short of sending cash? Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl

Re: Sending $US to the US

government documents for most of the states. Regrettably, Texas law doesn't allow that. Already tried that route :) Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com

Re: Effective adveristing

find Perl programmers lament. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6

Production databases on SSDs?

: I like beer. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www..oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6

Re: Production databases on SSDs?

cost in relation to setting up a bunch of master/slave mysql servers, configuring them, getting replication going, etc. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com

Sleeping Arrangements

55, out in Hangar Lane. I think he wants something more central. Can anyone recommend anything? Cheers, Ovid -- DO NOT TAKE TIMECUBE ORALLY

Re: help - looking for a crossword compiler (human or computer)

it there, it's described at the bottom of https://prof.ti.bfh.ch/hew1/informatik3/prolog/p-99/) It's been solved in: Haskell: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/99_questions/95_to_99 Prolog: https://prof.ti.bfh.ch/hew1/informatik3/prolog/p-99/p99.pl Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http

Re: help - looking for a crossword compiler (human or computer)

- Original Message From: Ovid publiustemp-londo...@yahoo.com Cool - I have 3 volunteers to review - thanks all - still no joy with crossword creators.. I'm not doing it by hand bah! For anyone who wants to take a swing at it, this is the unsolved problem #99 in Perl 6

Re: Founding a Perlmongers group

with an amusing video. People really like this. Cheers, Ovid [1]. Don't email me offlist and ask who this is. I'm not telling. Period. -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com

Re: London.pm Dim Sum Young Cheng Thursday 1pm

-altering substances (alcohol, that is). I'll try to remember that tomorrow. Wouldn't want you folks to run dry. Cheers, Ovid-- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog - http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http

Re: [ANNOUNCE] London Perl Mongers Technical Meeting 12th April 2010

, a happy medium ;-) On one hand, I'm happy to have the opportunity to see this talk second hand because I'll be in Vienna that day (I'm sure someone planned this). On the other hand, since there is a concern about recording, why record it? Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http

Re: Advice on HTML editting

', $href); } print $token-as_is; } That's about as easy as you can get and seems to satisfy OP's requirements. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog - http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official

Cheap places in central London?

Beer. Now that the formalities are out of the way, my apologies for a completely off-topic email. I've some friends from the US who are struggling to find affordable accommodation in central London for my upcoming June wedding. Any suggestions? Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http

Posting to blogger.com?

Does anyone have any *working* code (I've seen plenty of failing examples) they can share which demonstrates making a successful post to blogger? I've failed with both Net::Blogger and Atompub (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2942998/cant-post-with-perls-netblogger). Cheers, Ovid -- Buy

Re: Posting to blogger.com?

. That would be fantastic! It appears that blogger no longer has an XMLRPC interface, so Net::Blogger is pretty much guaranteed to not work. Working with WWW::Google::API right now, but still getting nowhere. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog

Re: Posting to blogger.com?

generic solution. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog - http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6

Posting to Blogger (working code)

I was asked to post a follow-up about the blogger code I was hacking on. I have working code listed at: http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/2010/06/getting-married-and-posting-to-blogger.html Cheers, Ovid-- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http

Re: Credit Card Processing (Was: london.pm Digest, Vol 57, Issue 4)

terminal which only has a numeric keypad. (But I have no evidence for that.) A friend of mine who maintains a lot of credit card processing software states that only numbers are used because people mistype them less often than the letters. Cheers, Ovid-- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com

DevTank

it a bit more complex than I anticipated) Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6

Marketing: Lacuna Expanse

Perl can do, tell 'em about it. It's another great Web site to add to the list. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http

Re: Shell-fu

to justify this idiocy? (Ooh, my bad ... being able to type ± and § are so useful that I'm just overjoyed to sacrifice the # for them ...) Cheers, Ovid --Live and work overseas - http://overseas-exile.blogspot.com/ Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog - http

Re: Schwern in London: emergency social

. Cheers, Ovid  -- Live and work overseas - http://overseas-exile.blogspot.com/ Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog - http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl/

Re: Recommended IDE...?

with it, that's OK, but you can't compare it to an IDE (except Eclipse: I've watched more than one developer struggle like mad using Eclipse because it has all the speed of a snail on downers.) Cheers, Ovid -- IT consulting, training, international recruiting        http://www.allaroundtheworld.fr/. Buy

Re: Recommended IDE...?

it's accreted over the years (grown is too kind of a word). I need to clean it up and put it out there. Cheers, Ovid -- IT consulting, training, international recruiting        http://www.allaroundtheworld.fr/. Buy my book! - http://bit.ly/beginning_perl Live and work overseas - http://www.overseas