Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-passive-interface-attribute-04.txt

2020-09-30 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Acee: Except the corner cases of unnumbered interface, would you like to illustrate other scenarios that the process does not apply? As mentioned in last mail, knowing the passive interfaces can assist the nodes or controller know the boundaries of the network. Aijun Wang China Telecom >

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-bonica-lsr-ip-flexalgo-00.txt

2020-09-30 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Ron - Interesting proposal. A few mundane - but I think still important - comments. New IS-IS TLVs There is no need to have two TLVs for each address-family - one for MTID #0 and one for all non-zero MTIDs. One TLV/AF will suffice. The reason we have separate TLVs today

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-05.txt

2020-09-30 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
This version addresses Tom Petch's comments. Thanks, Acee On 9/30/20, 11:08 AM, "Lsr on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org" wrote: A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Link State Routing WG of the IETF.

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-bonica-lsr-ip-flexalgo-00.txt

2020-09-30 Thread Robert Raszuk
Peter, Granted - you can do this with MPLS encapsulation. But if you are doing native IP forwarding or SRv6 I am still unclear. Imagine you get allocated by RIR say IPv4 /16 or IPv6 /32. So you take some part of that block and use it for flex algo next hops .. flood it via IGP and have flex

Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-bonica-lsr-ip-flexalgo-00.txt

2020-09-30 Thread Ron Bonica
Hi Muthu, Thanks for the review. An interface can be associated with, at most, one Flexible Algorithm. Likewise, an IP address can be associated with, at most, one Flexible Algorithm. I tried to express this in the text below, but probably didn't do a very good job. If you can think of a

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-bonica-lsr-ip-flexalgo-00.txt

2020-09-30 Thread Peter Psenak
Robert, On 30/09/2020 16:28, Robert Raszuk wrote: Peter, Let's see if we are talking about the same thing ... Take SRv6 as example ... You can run flex algorithm only on selected segment endpoints as you do encap and dst rewrite. So rest of the network (P/transit routers) do not need to

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-04.txt

2020-09-30 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Tom, See inline . I've addressed your comments in 05. On 9/30/20, 6:14 AM, "tom petch" wrote: From: Acee Lindem (acee) Sent: 29 September 2020 22:44 Hi Tom, We can add the references. See ACEE>. Yes please - it will make it easier for me to review On

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-bonica-lsr-ip-flexalgo-00.txt

2020-09-30 Thread Dongjie (Jimmy)
Hi, While it is possible to define algorithm-specific IP reachability TLVs to advertise IP Prefixes associated with different algorithms, this would introduce several new IS-IS top TLVs. One quick question is: can similar function be provided with extensions to existing IP reachability TLVs

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-bonica-lsr-ip-flexalgo-00.txt

2020-09-30 Thread Robert Raszuk
Peter, Let's see if we are talking about the same thing ... Take SRv6 as example ... You can run flex algorithm only on selected segment endpoints as you do encap and dst rewrite. So rest of the network (P/transit routers) do not need to have a clue about any flex-algo other then plain old SPF.

Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-bonica-lsr-ip-flexalgo-00.txt

2020-09-30 Thread Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal
A quick question: If an IP address and a Flexible Algorithm are associated with the same interface, they are also associated with one another. An IP address MAY be associated with, at most, one interface. If multiple IP addresses and multiple flexible algorithms are associated with a

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-bonica-lsr-ip-flexalgo-00.txt

2020-09-30 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Robert, On 30/09/2020 09:28, Robert Raszuk wrote: Hi, > It uses the HBH option Currently Ron's proposal seems to work well for both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses. I hope this discussion will not try to derail it to IPv6 only track. I see no issue with loopback to flexible algorithm mapping

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-bonica-lsr-ip-flexalgo-00.txt

2020-09-30 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Joel, On 30/09/2020 06:04, Joel M. Halpern wrote: I am missing something in this discussion of multiple algorithms. not really. My understanding of flex-algo whether for MPLS, SRv6, SRH, or IPv6, is that you need to associated a forwarding label (e.g. MPLS label or IPv6 address) with a

Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-passive-interface-attribute-04.txt

2020-09-30 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Aijun, Other than your ill-conceived topology discovery heuristic, what other possible reason would there be for associating the passive attribute with a prefix? Thanks, Acee On 9/29/20, 10:39 PM, "Aijun Wang" wrote: Hi, Acee and Peter: Passive interface is mainly used at the

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-04.txt

2020-09-30 Thread tom petch
From: Acee Lindem (acee) Sent: 29 September 2020 22:44 Hi Tom, We can add the references. See ACEE>. Yes please - it will make it easier for me to review On 8/13/20, 6:03 AM, "Lsr on behalf of tom petch" wrote: From: Lsr on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org Sent: 13 August 2020

Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-passive-interface-attribute-04.txt

2020-09-30 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Aijun, we have made a similar discussion in the context of the Appendix A of draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-prefix-originator. I have made it very clear that using IP reachability advertisement to derive any topological data is incorrect and broken. Same applies here. I'm not going to change my

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-bonica-lsr-ip-flexalgo-00.txt

2020-09-30 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi, > It uses the HBH option Currently Ron's proposal seems to work well for both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses. I hope this discussion will not try to derail it to IPv6 only track. I see no issue with loopback to flexible algorithm mapping in 1:1 fashion. I do however see some issues in deploying