Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-07-06 Thread Jakob Unterwurzacher
Wifi will not work as you cannot boot from it. You need cabled ethernet. 2012/7/4 Abraham Close amclos...@gmail.com Hello, So I just found out that my school will have to use LTSP over wifi because of costs. I have some questions: How will I do this? Will it be cheaper to use ethernet?

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-07-04 Thread Abraham Close
Hello, So I just found out that my school will have to use LTSP over wifi because of costs. I have some questions: How will I do this? Will it be cheaper to use ethernet? What hardware specs do I need? Thanks, Abraham Close On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Abraham Close amclos...@gmail.com

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-31 Thread Eberhard Roloff
On 05/31/2012 12:32 AM, Abraham Close wrote: Hello, What server would you recommend for a 50 fat client set up? I have been looking at some System76 servers but I rather have someones input that has done this before. Thanks, Abraham Close Abraham, do not get me wrong, please. Surely, you

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-31 Thread Rolf-Werner Eilert
We have ca. 50 THIN clients (2 labs + some groups and single ones) running on an Intel Xeon system (simplest Xeon CPUs with only 4 cores, i. e. 2 real, 2 virtual, so 8 in total), 8 GB RAM, 6 SATA HDs (no RAID). This runs fine with any Linux distro and any LTSP version. The server has GBit

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-30 Thread Jay Goldberg
It sounds like your requirements for a switch are minimal. Buy the cheapest, they are all the same at the entry-level. Buy 2 because they are cheap and LTSP will utterly fail if the switch fails. I am not knowledgeable about SSDs, but buying one that exceeds the speed of the SATA controllers in

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-30 Thread Abraham Close
Hey, I am not knowledgeable about SSDs, but buying one that exceeds the speed of the SATA controllers in your T40 and T60 (SATA1 1.5gbps as near as I can tell) is probably a waste. You will be better off buying a server with SATA2. I didn't see that, thanks! Also, what server do you

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-30 Thread Abraham Close
Hello, What server would you recommend for a 50 fat client set up? I have been looking at some System76 servers but I rather have someones input that has done this before. Thanks, Abraham Close On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Abraham Close amclos...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I am not

[Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-29 Thread Abraham Close
Hello, My school is getting 40 - 100 computers from a company getting rid of theirs. (There all IBM T60s and T40s.) With the computers we get, we plan on setting up a computer lab with LTSP. We have decided that we will be using Edubuntu as our OS. From what I have read online it appears that a

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-29 Thread Jay Goldberg
Not sure where this '7' number is coming from... But, the way that fat clients work is that they boot the same central root OS from a central server, and execute that OS using local resources. Once a user logs in, the LTSP login manager will automatically mount directories from the central server

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-29 Thread David Burgess
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Abraham Close amclos...@gmail.com wrote: So I plan on setting up 1 server per 7 clients. I think you'll find that one capable server can handle many more than 7 clients in most circumstances. Since the server's only real workload is to feed files to the clients,

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-29 Thread Abraham Close
Jay, 7 clients connected to a server comes from the fact the T60s have a limited amount of computing power to sustain 7 clients. At least thats what I read from a guide by Edubuntu. BTW, thanks for the fast answer. Now my only question now is: how do I connect the clients to a server? I have

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-29 Thread Abraham Close
David, Thanks for the help guys. Just one question I don't understand: Do I need a network switch to connect the clients to the server or is it done wirelessly? Thanks, Abraham Close On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:11 AM, David Burgess apt@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:04 AM,

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-29 Thread David Burgess
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Abraham Close amclos...@gmail.com wrote: Do I need a network switch to connect the clients to the server or is it done wirelessly? You need a switch with gigabit speed or better. db

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-29 Thread Jay Goldberg
Further on that, you can only PXE boot computers over an Ethernet connection, so it must be connected at all times. You are talking about T40 and T60 laptops, but it will be impossible to make them mobile with LTSP over wireless, you'd need to install the Linux distro to hard disk. Otherwise, if

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-29 Thread Peter D Knight
Fat clients are a good way to go because they take less from a server, however they are more difficult to control in a classroom environment. The new fat client system with 12.04 looks very exciting. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp I think you should check out the cluster

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-29 Thread Abraham Close
Hey, Are you saying I shouldn't do fat clients? And what network switch do you recommend for 20 clients? Also is this a good ssd: http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-64-2-5-Inch-Solid-State-CT064M4SSD2/dp/B004W2JKWG for the server? Thanks, Abraham Close On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Peter D

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-29 Thread Abraham Close
Oh and I forgot to ask: How do I do a PXE boot? On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Abraham Close amclos...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, Are you saying I shouldn't do fat clients? And what network switch do you recommend for 20 clients? Also is this a good ssd:

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-29 Thread JF Straeten
Re, On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 05:16:12PM -0400, Abraham Close wrote: Oh and I forgot to ask: How do I do a PXE boot? You select the entry saying Network boot or PXE boot in the BIOS of the machine. It will then get network parameters (IP, etc.) from your DHCP server and download what is needed

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-29 Thread Abraham Close
Hey, Wow thanks for the quick reply. Just three more questions: Are you guys saying I shouldn't do fat clients? And what network switch do you recommend for 20 clients? Also is this a good ssd: http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-64-2-5-Inch-Solid-State-CT064M4SSD2/dp/B004W2JKWG for the server?

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-29 Thread David Burgess
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Abraham Close amclos...@gmail.com wrote: Wow thanks for the quick reply. Just three more questions: Are you guys saying I shouldn't do fat clients? And what network switch do you recommend for 20 clients? Also is this a good ssd:

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-29 Thread JF Straeten
Re, On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 05:34:23PM -0400, Abraham Close wrote: Wow thanks for the quick reply. Just three more questions: Are you guys saying I shouldn't do fat clients? I don't think so (so, you should probably do fat clients in your case). If I understand right, your clients are just

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Computer Lab with LTSP

2012-05-29 Thread Abraham Close
Hello, Thanks for all of the replies! Is this a good network switch: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/NETGEAR+-+ProSafe+Plus+24-Port+Gigabit+Ethernet+Switch/2300693.p?id=1218320156911skuId=2300693 And what about this ssd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167062 Thanks, Abraham