[luau] New school LTSP project

2002-07-16 Thread Stockton, Wade
Title: Message Call for Help. Windward Nazarene Academy in Kaneohe is in need of a 4 or 5 station ltsp lab. Also as an inticement for teachers to get newer machines I would like to set up a couple of non terminal server workstations. I am the technology coordinator (volunteer) for this

Re: [luau] small bug, make or editor?

2002-07-16 Thread Jimen Ching
On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Ray Strode wrote: From what I read, it says, the .SUFFIXES directive discards the default ruleset, only if it is blanked. Of course, you can use the directive more than once: Right, I mis-remembered. In any case, the blanked .SUFFIXES directive should be used. You don't

Re: [luau] New school LTSP project

2002-07-16 Thread R. Scott Belford
Great to hear from you about this, Wade. I have not hear back from Pastor AhSing about accepting the numerous stations Warren and crew have prepared, so WNA would be a great start. As Warren could confirm, MidPac has gotten chock full of computers. Strangely enough, the project is starting

[luau] Another interesting excerpt from Windows XP EULA

2002-07-16 Thread Michael Ableyev
Except as otherwise permitted by the NetMeeting, Remote Assistance, and Remote Desktop features described below, you may not use the Product [XP] to permit any Device to use, access, display or run other executable software residing on the Workstation Computer, nor may you permit any Device to

Re: [luau] New school LTSP project

2002-07-16 Thread Don Brown
I'm new to the list, but did I just read it right that you have tons of computers, loaded with Linux, just waiting to be deployed to a school? If so, I know of a school that might be interested. What's on the machines re software and hardware? On another note, I'm a software developer (Java,

Re: [luau] Another interesting excerpt from Windows XP EULA

2002-07-16 Thread MonMotha
You didn't know about that? Basically yes they can forbid that kind of thing. They're Microsoft after all, so they can get away with being blatently anticompetitive. This was on /. a while back. --MonMotha Michael Ableyev wrote: Except as otherwise permitted by the NetMeeting, Remote

[luau] SparcStation IPX

2002-07-16 Thread MonMotha
I have an old SparcStation IPX that I've upgraded a bit (52MB of RAM, cost me $5; 2.1GB HDD, free). I need some suggestions as to what flavor of UNIX to run on it. Linux seems a bit sluggish on it (it came to me with RH 5.2 on it, not to mention RPM hell...), and NetBSD seems to have trouble

Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX

2002-07-16 Thread Dustin Cross
Aloha, OpenBSD (http://www.openbsd.org/) is great on old sun hardware. Solaris is real slow on an IPX and old versions of Solaris don't come with all the great tools we are used to with Linux. If you were in Hawaii I could let you borrow Solaris (2.5.1, 2.6, or 2.7, I don't think 2.8 dropped

Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX

2002-07-16 Thread MonMotha
Dustin Cross wrote: Aloha, OpenBSD (http://www.openbsd.org/) is great on old sun hardware. Solaris is real slow on an IPX and old versions of Solaris don't come with all the great tools we are used to with Linux. If you were in Hawaii I could let you borrow Solaris (2.5.1, 2.6, or 2.7, I

Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX

2002-07-16 Thread Dustin Cross
ALoha, OpenBSD does ftp install. I have never had to do anything special to get OpenBSD to work on sun hardware. Never seen any sundisk lable problems. You can download a boot.net floppy image from ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/3.1/sparc/ (or one of the mirrors). Or you could get the

[luau] Qinstall script

2002-07-16 Thread Wilson
Anyone tried playing around with Qinstall? http://obua.org/ About: Qinstall is a Qmail installer script that allows you to quickly and easily install qmail and other useful packets (daemontools, ucspi-tcp, vpopmail, qmailadmin, ezmlm, sqwebmail, etc.). It has a GUI and multilanguage support.

Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX

2002-07-16 Thread al plant
MonMotha wrote: I have an old SparcStation IPX that I've upgraded a bit (52MB of RAM, cost me $5; 2.1GB HDD, free). I need some suggestions as to what flavor of UNIX to run on it. Linux seems a bit sluggish on it (it came to me with RH 5.2 on it, not to mention RPM hell...), and NetBSD

Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX

2002-07-16 Thread MonMotha
al plant wrote: Hi Mon, You might try Solaris 8 ( It is given away free.) or what about FreeBSD I have got that to run on all kinds of boxes. I use FreeBSD 4.5 which is stable. I don't think Solaris 8 will run on it (and I thought it was only free for x86?). Even if it would, it would be

Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX

2002-07-16 Thread Dan George
MonMotha wrote: al plant wrote: Hi Mon, You might try Solaris 8 ( It is given away free.) or what about FreeBSD I have got that to run on all kinds of boxes. I use FreeBSD 4.5 which is stable. I don't think Solaris 8 will run on it (and I thought it was only free for x86?). Even if

Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX

2002-07-16 Thread MonMotha
Dan George wrote: MonMotha wrote: al plant wrote: Hi Mon, You might try Solaris 8 ( It is given away free.) or what about FreeBSD I have got that to run on all kinds of boxes. I use FreeBSD 4.5 which is stable. I don't think Solaris 8 will run on it (and I thought it was only free

Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX

2002-07-16 Thread Dan George
MonMotha wrote: Dan George wrote: MonMotha wrote: al plant wrote: Hi Mon, You might try Solaris 8 ( It is given away free.) or what about FreeBSD I have got that to run on all kinds of boxes. I use FreeBSD 4.5 which is stable. I don't think Solaris 8 will run on it (and I

Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX

2002-07-16 Thread MonMotha
I like to know how you can do that MON, let me in on your secret. Ive been trying to get geek minded here about learning Linux like I know Windows and Netware but with two kids 8 and 12 (+nagging wife) and full time job, all I was able to do is a basic Linux class and stolen time after 9pm

Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX

2002-07-16 Thread Julio Gutierrez
On Tuesday 16 July 2002 09:02 pm, MonMotha wrote: BTW Solaris 8 doen't support IPXs, I have one myself and Solaris 7 was the best I could do but it runs suppper slooww... I recommend using NetBSD or FreeBSD . but I truly recommend NetBSD, it runs smooth and doesn't

Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX

2002-07-16 Thread Dustin Cross
Solaris 8 is the standard for Solaris. There are a lot of places that still run 2.6 and 2.7 (Solaris 8 is the equiv of 2.8). Solaris 9 just came out and people don't move to the next release of Solaris like we do Linux. Sandi has been doing new installs of systems that require Solaris 2.6.

Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX

2002-07-16 Thread Dustin Cross
JUST DO IT! Install every operating system you can get your hands on, on any old hardware you can find, late at night after your wife and kids go to sleep. You know you are really into it when you realize it is 4:30am and you are still playing. I like to know how you can do that MON, let me

[luau] Sharp Zaurus sl5000d

2002-07-16 Thread whenever
I got my hand on a zaurus from a friend today, it's running Linux with QT, pretty good PDA, too bad the sync software that came with the unit is windows based, I got to download the linux hot sync program, but too lazy to recompile the kernel for usb-ppp support. There are some

Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX

2002-07-16 Thread Dustin Cross
Aloha, FreeBSD doesn't support 32-bit sparc hardware (i.e. sun4c and sun4m) they have a beta release that support 64-bit sparc architecture (sun4u). NetBSD runs on everything (think I could install NetBSD in my toaster) and OpenBSD supports sun4c, sun4m, and sun4u. The IPX is a sun4c

Re: [luau] Sharp Zaurus sl5000d

2002-07-16 Thread Jeff Mings
This could be a very cool thing, depending on what you need and want in a PDA. I have been coveting the new Zaurus with the pop-down keyboard, beautiful big screen, and real, built-in Linux. The potential to easily move stuff between my Linux boxen and PDA is very appealing, and not really

Re: [luau] Sharp Zaurus sl5000d

2002-07-16 Thread MonMotha
whenever wrote: I got my hand on a zaurus from a friend today, it's running Linux with QT, pretty good PDA, too bad the sync software that came with the unit is windows based, I got to download the linux hot sync program, but too lazy to recompile the kernel for usb-ppp support. There

Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX

2002-07-16 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Monday we had 13 miscellaneous Sparc 2, 5, 10, and a 20 donated to the LTSP project. We can install something on them that would work in a LTS environment, can't we? scott On Tuesday 16 July 2002 22:02, you wrote: Aloha, FreeBSD doesn't support 32-bit sparc hardware (i.e. sun4c and

Re: [luau] Sharp Zaurus sl5000d

2002-07-16 Thread MonMotha
Jeff Mings wrote: This could be a very cool thing, depending on what you need and want in a PDA. I have been coveting the new Zaurus with the pop-down keyboard, beautiful big screen, and real, built-in Linux. The potential to easily move stuff between my Linux boxen and PDA is very

Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX

2002-07-16 Thread MonMotha
The question is, do you have the monitors? If not, it's probably not worth buying convertors to run them on PC monitors (if you can find one that can sync that high!). Also, those are pretty old sparcs, but as X terminals they MIGHT do. Check the graphics boards in them, most of them back

Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX

2002-07-16 Thread Dustin Cross
YES! The big question is goig to be the graphics card. Most old sparcs came with an 8 bit color. X will work just fine, but the active window will use all of the colors and everything else will have crazy colors. LTSP has a beta version for sun hardware and there is also the SLXT project

Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX

2002-07-16 Thread Dustin Cross
The used computer place in Mapunapuna had maybe 100 old fix freq Sun monitors (will work fine with these systems) that he can't get rid of. I was talking to him about them and he said he was thinking of trying to sell them for $1 each on ebay plus shipping. Dusty The question is, do you have

Re: [luau] Sharp Zaurus sl5000d

2002-07-16 Thread whenever
Thanks for all the info, this's might be another toy for me, I had been through a WinCE, a palm perfessional, a palm III with 8Mb upgrade. Got tire of them too fast and gave them away. Sadly I can't use any two way communication device at work, I will try play with it since I have