Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is HOSEF

2008-03-29 Thread Jim Thompson
On Mar 28, 2008, at 5:04 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote: On Fri, 2008-03-28 14:44:56 Jim Thompson wrote: As a non-member, I have no vote in the matter, Since you're calling for membership, will you be the first to join? Absolutely not. I am completely private, (versus PUBLIC), and avoid to

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is HOSEF

2008-03-28 Thread Angela Kahealani
On Thu, 2008-03-27 16:13:40 Jim Thompson wrote: On Mar 27, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Dave Burns wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Kuokoa project got mentioned. I don't see that as competing with e-waste much. If we had volunteers with the required skills

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is Scott

2008-03-28 Thread Jim Thompson
On Mar 27, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Angela Kahealani wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-27 01:30:13 Jim Thompson wrote: This is a general spirt, hackers program because programming challenges are of intrinsic interest to them. Problems related to programming arouse genuine curiosity in the hacker and make

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is HOSEF

2008-03-28 Thread Jim Thompson
On Mar 27, 2008, at 8:47 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-27 16:13:40 Jim Thompson wrote: On Mar 27, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Dave Burns wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Kuokoa project got mentioned. I don't see that as competing with e-waste

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is HOSEF

2008-03-28 Thread P
Reply inserted below. On Thu 08/03/27 4:13 PM , Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: My concern with additional school labs is that we're butting heads with DOE and many (not all, but many) tech coordinators, who all want the shinny new stuff (and there are hard-science reasons for it

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is HOSEF

2008-03-28 Thread Angela Kahealani
On Fri, 2008-03-28 00:01:34 Jim Thompson wrote: The ISO 639-2/639-3 code for Hawaiian is haw. Excellent. It would be a good idea to get one or more Hawaiian Fonts into distributions such as Edubuntu so that installation becomes as easy as aptitude install fonts-hawaiian. Aloha, Angela

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is HOSEF

2008-03-28 Thread P
Sorry, my webmail is not formatting my replies correctly. Let's try this again. Reply inserted below. --Peter On Thu 08/03/27 9:55 PM , Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: My concern with additional school labs is that we're butting heads with DOE and many (not all, but many) tech

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is HOSEF

2008-03-28 Thread Dave Burns
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been warned away from the Hawaiian Studies group(s) at UH. Actually this does not much surprise me and it would not surprise me much if it turned out that teaming with them ended up being counter-productive or

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is HOSEF

2008-03-28 Thread P
One last attempt before I give up. Sorry. Reply inserted below. --Peter On Thu 08/03/27 9:55 PM , Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: My concern with additional school labs is that we're butting heads with DOE and many (not all, but many) tech coordinators, who all want the shinny new

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is HOSEF

2008-03-28 Thread Angela Kahealani
On Fri, 2008-03-28 10:30:03 Dave Burns wrote: also seemed possible that the whole thing is some personal vendetta or power sturggle between Scott and Jim. Apparently it's *WAY* bigger than publicly known. Until this blow-up I didn't have any awareness that HOSEF *had* a board, as all the

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is HOSEF

2008-03-28 Thread Jim Thompson
On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:02 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote: On Fri, 2008-03-28 10:30:03 Dave Burns wrote: also seemed possible that the whole thing is some personal vendetta or power sturggle between Scott and Jim. Apparently it's *WAY* bigger than publicly known. Until this blow-up I didn't have

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is HOSEF

2008-03-28 Thread Angela Kahealani
On Fri, 2008-03-28 14:44:56 Jim Thompson wrote: As a non-member, I have no vote in the matter, Since you're calling for membership, will you be the first to join? Absolutely not. I am completely private, (versus PUBLIC), and avoid to whatever extent possible, *any*thing of corporate nature.

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is Scott

2008-03-27 Thread 808blogger
REPOST- I sent from wrong address and it got trapped in moderation. sorry disclaimer I run 100% open source I am a parent /disclaimer Having nothing to do with hosef i'll chime in. the hosef group seems ( by looking at the photo gallery and projects) focuses a lot on hardware for some reason.

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is Scott

2008-03-27 Thread Angela Kahealani
On Wed, 2008-03-26 20:04:08 808blogger wrote: disclaimer I run 100% open source I am a parent /disclaimer Having nothing to do with hosef i'll chime in. the hosef group seems ( by looking at the photo gallery and projects) focuses a lot on hardware for some reason. This was made clear when

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is Scott

2008-03-27 Thread 808blogger
..and how sweet it is if that packaged solution costs $0, It's harder to get cheaper than FREE (as in beer). It may be presumptive of me but, in my estimation everysingle one of those computers is likely loaded with software and included incensing (i could be wrong) but everybusiness ihave

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is HOSEF

2008-03-27 Thread Angela Kahealani
On Wed, 2008-03-26 22:16:23 Jim Thompson wrote: I don't think the current setup with the Executive Director is   working, nor is healthy for the organization. ...and your proposed alternative is? I'll repeat what I said earlier; you can fix a watch by replacing its   parts, but replacing

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is Scott

2008-03-27 Thread Jim Thompson
On Mar 26, 2008, at 8:43 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote: On Wed, 2008-03-26 20:04:08 808blogger wrote: disclaimer I run 100% open source I am a parent /disclaimer Having nothing to do with hosef i'll chime in. the hosef group seems ( by looking at the photo gallery and projects) focuses a lot

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is HOSEF

2008-03-27 Thread Jim Thompson
On Mar 26, 2008, at 10:59 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote: On Wed, 2008-03-26 22:16:23 Jim Thompson wrote: I don't think the current setup with the Executive Director is working, nor is healthy for the organization. ...and your proposed alternative is? to eliminate the position, put Scott on the

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is Scott

2008-03-27 Thread Jim Thompson
On Mar 26, 2008, at 9:18 PM, 808blogger wrote: It may be presumptive of me but, in my estimation everysingle one of those computers is likely loaded with software and included incensing (i could be wrong) but everybusiness ihave ever worked with buys new computers with operating

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is Scott

2008-03-27 Thread R. Scott Belford
Bottom Line My name is Scott. I am the volunteer Executive Director for The Hawaii Open Source Education Foundation. In our last complete Board Meeting, when we last had a quorum on 12-22-07, I stated that our ecycling initiatives either needed to become self-sustaining or that we needed to

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is Scott

2008-03-27 Thread Angela Kahealani
On Thu, 2008-03-27 08:15:42 R. Scott Belford wrote: Bottom Line My name is Scott. I am the volunteer Executive Director for The Hawaii Open Source Education Foundation. In our last complete Board Meeting, when we last had a quorum on 12-22-07, I stated that our ecycling initiatives either

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is HOSEF

2008-03-27 Thread Dave Burns
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I'd like to reach out to the Apple community (Jordan Hubbard is an acqaintence, and he was spun up to speak at TPOSSCON/PFOSSCON this year, though that didn't happen.) There is a good local mac group,

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is HOSEF

2008-03-27 Thread Angela Kahealani
On Thu, 2008-03-27 03:18:52 Jim Thompson wrote: On Mar 26, 2008, at 10:59 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote: what ails it? what is the proposed solution? There are many things that ail HOSEF. It is underfunded for its current mission. Obviously changing the mission may be quicker and easier than

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is Scott

2008-03-27 Thread Vince Hoang
Stop adding fuel to the fire. Anyone that cares knows the situation. There is no need to rehash. Help move this conversation forward. Drop the emergency moderation and take it to hosef-managers. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is Scott

2008-03-27 Thread Angela Kahealani
On Thu, 2008-03-27 01:30:13 Jim Thompson wrote: On Mar 26, 2008, at 8:43 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote: I think it's often easier to gift a fully functional computer into the community, made from FLOSS and e-waste, than it is to convince an existing computer owner to risk their own hardware on

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is Scott

2008-03-27 Thread Brian Chee
While I only play host to the hosef server (free of charge), I would like to point out that Scott has been 1000% in favor of how HOSEF helps the community. He actually ponied up the bucks for the conference by taking out a home equity...now that says commitment in spadesnot very bright, but

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is HOSEF

2008-03-27 Thread Jim Thompson
On Mar 27, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Dave Burns wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I'd like to reach out to the Apple community (Jordan Hubbard is an acqaintence, and he was spun up to speak at TPOSSCON/PFOSSCON this year, though that didn't

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is Scott

2008-03-26 Thread Jim Thompson
On Mar 26, 2008, at 4:24 PM, R. Scott Belford wrote: Hello. My name is Scott. I have never seen my name so many times in a generally negative light as I have these last few days on the LUAU mailing list. This is life, and people have voices. So be it. It is easier to destroy

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is Scott

2008-03-26 Thread Angela Kahealani
On Wed, 2008-03-26 16:45:53 Jim Thompson wrote: If you will listen, there are many who will tell you where you went   wrong. Nevermind what's wrong with Scott... what is the right alternative you propose instead? -- (I'll) Be Seeing You...All information and transactions are private

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is Scott

2008-03-26 Thread Jim Thompson
On Mar 26, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote: what is the right alternative you propose instead? A fundamental refocusing of HOSEF away from eWaste and back to advocacy and education about Free and Open Source. Jim ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is Scott

2008-03-26 Thread Dave Burns
what is the right alternative you propose instead? A fundamental refocusing of HOSEF away from eWaste and back to advocacy and education about Free and Open Source. This answer is pretty vague. Vince and I have both asked similar questions on the list, which were also dismissed. HOSEF

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is Scott

2008-03-26 Thread Angela Kahealani
On Wed, 2008-03-26 17:06:27 Jim Thompson wrote: A fundamental refocusing of HOSEF away from eWaste and back to   advocacy and education about Free and Open Source. Jim How would that, then, be different from a LUG (Linux User's Group)? other than also supporting BSD, and Solaris and Darwin?

Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is Scott

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Besenbruch
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 18:57:07 Dave Burns wrote: This answer is pretty vague. Vince and I have both asked similar questions on the list, which were also dismissed. Such questions get answered when an organization wants to work together. The level of conflict I have seen here means there

Re: [luau] Hello Again!!!

2003-02-26 Thread al plant
Deven Phillips wrote: Hello all, * Aloha Deven, Where you been? Someone brought up your name last night when we were at the HOSEF gathering at Price Busters. Welcome back. Aloha! Al Plant - Webmaster http://hawaiidakine.com Providing FAST DSL Service for $28.00 /mo. Member

Re: [luau] Hello Again!!!

2003-02-25 Thread Jeff Mings
Welcome Back Deven! Hope you're still making movies with Linux and doing other cool stuff with the penguin! -Jeff Mings Deven Phillips wrote: Hello all, I have finally returned to the group after a long sojourn. I've been a away too long, so if someone wouldn't mind sending me an

Re: [luau] Hello Again!!!

2003-02-25 Thread Deven Phillips
Well, I asked you all for an update, so I'll give you an update on what's been going on with me. I was working for Busch Consulting, Inc. until they asked me to take a %50 pay cut. I am looking for a job right now. I have been working a lot with netForensics (www.netforensics.com),

Re: [luau] Hello Again!!!

2003-02-25 Thread Vince Hoang
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 10:56:02PM -1000, Deven Phillips wrote: I asked you all for an update, so I'll give you an update on what's been going on with me. - long thread on local economy (I found it rather interesting) - a small flame fest - plans for a get together this Friday

[luau] Hello

2002-08-14 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
From a Texan (!) to another Texan (?): Welcome! (And I am sure you know there are direct flights from George Bush to Honolulu?)

Re: [luau] Hello

2002-08-13 Thread Ben Beeson
Florian, Welcome to the list!! I can't speak to the computer job market here as it is outside of my area of expertise, but the beaches are great as is the weather.I thik you will find this list to be very active and full of goodies. Hope you enjoy your time in Hawaii. R, Ben On

RE: [luau] Hello

2002-08-13 Thread Taylor Cody Civ SAIC/PETS
A quick search for UNIX on SAIC's public page shows 16 openings in Hawaii. I didn't look them over that well but I noticed a couple of the jobs. The PASS-K jobs ask for maintain level 3 Korean language proficiency . That isn't exactly a requirement, but you would need a TS clearance and it is a

[luau] Hello

2002-08-11 Thread Florian Hines
Hi, I'll be moving to Honolulu next june so i thought i'd sign up for the list ahead of time and introduce my self while im at it. My name is florian hines im in San Antonio right now, i've been using *nix one way or another for about 6 years. (I use Red Hat more than anything but Slack is my

[luau] Hello List

2002-04-19 Thread al plant
I got a message from the old mailie list so I cancelled myself off it. Does this mean I am still on the new list? There seems to be very few postings since I did this so I am checking. Aloha! Al Plant -Webmaster http://hawaiidakine.com Providing FAST DSL Service for $28.80/mo. Member Small

Re: [luau] Hello List

2002-04-19 Thread Eric Hattemer
Yes, you're still on the list. But its Friday, so you should be out drinking with the rest of them. -Eric Hattemer - Original Message - From: al plant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:06 PM Subject: [luau] Hello List I got a message from the old

Re: [luau] Hello List

2002-04-19 Thread Ray Strode
I got a message from the old mailie list so I cancelled myself off it. Does this mean I am still on the new list? yes