[luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-16 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
George- I have not seen anyone who can customize a professionally looking Linux desktop as well as you can. With RedHat Limbo, I don't see much need for IceWM any more. Perhaps you could apply your superb artist's touch on Limbo/KDE?

Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-15 Thread Joe Linux
While it's good to know that RH runs great on a specific machine, It is indeed sad to hear that Mandrake is having problems. Perhaps there will be a Wallmart/RedHat PC that will be pre configured. I don't think any computer system that isn't extremely both user friendly and very stable will b

Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-15 Thread lucidity
I agree. Red Hat does not "suck" as a desktop machine. Granted, it does take a little more work to set up then mandrake or windows. Comments like "Redhat just sucks as a personal desktop machine" serve no purpose. If you really have a gripe against it, state specifics and I am sure

[luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-15 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Further to my comment. Limbo 2 runs great on the GHz Athlon machine that I am going to give to Warren. Indeed, "great" is an understatement; it runs absolutely beautifully. I have never seen anything like that. WordPerfect 8, running from a KDE taskbar, took one second to load, and zero (i.

[luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-15 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Actually, if you get Red Hat to your customization, it is indeed more stable than Mandrake.

Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-15 Thread Joe Linux
Let's be honest. RedHat 7.3 totally suks on a personal PC. W. Wayne Liauh wrote: X doesn't work in distro Y, distro Y is negligent to desktop Linux." Red Hat is negligent toward desktop Linux for other reasons. =) > To be blunt, Warren, for a distro to not be able to detect a tulip-based N

Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-14 Thread Warren Togami
On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 11:38, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > X doesn't work in distro Y, distro Y is negligent to desktop Linux." > Red Hat is negligent toward desktop Linux for other reasons. =) > > > To be blunt, Warren, for a distro to not be able to detect a tulip-based NIC > card, it sucks. Sorry

[luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-14 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
X doesn't work in distro Y, distro Y is negligent to desktop Linux." Red Hat is negligent toward desktop Linux for other reasons. =) > To be blunt, Warren, for a distro to not be able to detect a tulip-based NIC card, it sucks.

Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-13 Thread Warren Togami
The odd version kernel series is used for development, while the even versions are "stable". development kernels will often eat your data, so if you dabble with the 2.5.x series make sure you don't have any important data, and keep backups. Otherwise the 2.5.x version is very cool to try and see

Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-13 Thread Dan George
Thats true. I just started dual booting two versions tried compiling the kernel on one and found out a newer kernel (beta 2.5) just came out. I thought 2.420 was the latest. See Linux Journal for August. Im trying to upgrade to IPv6. On Tuesday 13 August 2002 13:56, you wrote: > Who said anyt

Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-13 Thread MonMotha
Who said anything about reinstalling? Just keep your old kernel in lilo (and a bootdisk in case you mess lilo up) and you can boot your old, working kernel if you mess up. --MonMotha Dan George wrote: Its gets frustrating having to reinstall over and over again. On Monday 12 August 2002 20:

Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-13 Thread Dan George
Its gets frustrating having to reinstall over and over again. On Monday 12 August 2002 20:35, you wrote: > > Maybe somebody can post instructions on how to download the beta Linux > > and how to compile the kernel and set it up. I would appreciate it. I > > failed to get it right on four attempt

[luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-13 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Hi, Warren and Mon- I apologize that I probably made it more complicated than it had to be. The issue is not the tulip driver, but hardware detection of NIC cards using tulip chipset. As Mon mentioned, the tulip driver for the Linksys NIC chipset, which was correctly identified by Mandrake as

Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-13 Thread MonMotha
Tulip, which was initially developed by NASA, is an open-source project. As such, it is incumbent upon the due diligence of each distro to make sure that it can properly detect the various modifications thereof. The tulip driver is actually maintained as it's own project (http://tulip.sourcefo

[luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-12 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Ray- It can be very frustrating if and when you take Linux seriously (e.g., running a Linux-based business, or even trying to make a living doing Linux). I always believe that if people appreciate your work, they will be willing to pay. There is enough money flying around but you must first

Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-12 Thread Warren Togami
On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 22:23, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > Thanks Warren. All what I need to know is, which of the NIC cards > supported by Red Hat also uses tulip chipset? As I am sure you're aware, > it's the chipset that matters. > > Actually, same NIC cards, even with the same model number, may us

[luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-12 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
buy one in order to test it myself and be sure it works in Limbo beta. Please let me know where you bought it, and the revision version #. After I figure out this card, I'll build you custom RPM's with kernel drivers that should work in Red Hat 7.3.> Thanks Warren. All what I need to know is,

Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-12 Thread MonMotha
Maybe somebody can post instructions on how to download the beta Linux and how to compile the kernel and set it up. I would appreciate it. I failed to get it right on four attempts. Yes Im in between newbie and novice. But probably closer to newbie. The kernel howto is a good place to

Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-12 Thread Dan George
Warren Togami wrote: On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 13:57, Ray Strode wrote: Easy now You misread what he said. He said something along the lines of.: Well, the new beta of RedHat obviously has a more improved setup for desktop users than 7.3 did, but I still want to support Mandrake, instead,

Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-12 Thread Dan George
Ray Strode wrote: I do not appreciate overbroad comments along the lines of "Because card X doesn't work in distro Y, distro Y is negligent to desktop Linux." Red Hat is negligent toward desktop Linux for other reasons. =) Easy now You misread what he said. He said something along the

Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-12 Thread Dan George
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: I installed Red Hat (both 7.3 and Limbo) in one of my machines with a Linksys LNE100TX card. This is the only distro that couldn't recognize my Linksys card. (Based on the difference b/t 7.3 and Limbo, it is apparent that Red Hat is trying to expand into the desktop te

Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-12 Thread Warren Togami
On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 13:57, Ray Strode wrote: > Easy now You misread what he said. He said something along the > lines of.: > > Well, the new beta of RedHat obviously has a more improved setup for > desktop users > than 7.3 did, but I still want to support Mandrake, instead, because > the

Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-12 Thread Ray Strode
I do not appreciate overbroad comments along the lines of "Because card X doesn't work in distro Y, distro Y is negligent to desktop Linux." Red Hat is negligent toward desktop Linux for other reasons. =) Easy now You misread what he said. He said something along the lines of.: Well,

Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-12 Thread Warren Togami
On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 10:08, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > I installed Red Hat (both 7.3 and Limbo) in one of my machines with a > Linksys LNE100TX card. This is the only distro that couldn't recognize > my Linksys card. (Based on the difference b/t 7.3 and Limbo, it is > apparent that Red Hat is tr

[luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)

2002-08-12 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I installed Red Hat (both 7.3 and Limbo) in one of my machines with a Linksys LNE100TX card. This is the only distro that couldn't recognize my Linksys card. (Based on the difference b/t 7.3 and Limbo, it is apparent that Red Hat is trying to expand into the desktop territory. But, all things