[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

Hi, I'm Ed Hewitt (chewit in IRC). I have just joined the Lubuntu team in Launchpad, I am very keen to give you help with the Lubuntu project. I have been using Xubuntu since 7.10 release, and over the years Xubuntu has been getting heavier and slower after each release. This has been down two thi

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

Ed Hewitt makes some very good points , Something to look at would be the Fluxbuntu project the 7.10 Version was amazing because it was very very slim nothing except the essentials installed but it also retained the availability of all those other apps by using the official repositories. I don't th

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

Hi guys, completely agree with all of this, but first i think is to determine what we want our market to be. Do we want to be out of the box, forget about needed to install something to make it "usable" (ie: flash, codecs) or do we want to be a bare minimum speedy OS. either way, i like both id

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

I agree that xubuntu is not lightweight and app selection is key to this, especially for those that will always execute. I think something like connman or wics would be a better choice than network manager for Lubuntu. The gnome power management stuff I recall is already undergoing a radical size

[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu like Xubuntu

Alright, i wasnt sure what the guidelines are, As for the network manager, i would keep that in, as it is very usefull and easy to use (3g connections and VPN are seemless and dummy proof) however, there is another thing to remember, in my experience, LXDE is always faster then say, gnome or even

[Lubuntu-desktop] (no subject)

I vote go small , if someone wants songbird or Firefox or liferea or pidgin let them fetch it. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop

[Lubuntu-desktop] Forum

Hi guys here is the forum location, just a quick and free forum for us, I am a webmaster, and own my own host, so we can discuss that later when we actually have a beta version to release to public, and we are ready to submit for an official variation of ubuntu here is the forum http://lubu

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu like Xubuntu

As for OpenOffice or Abiword/Gnumeric, I would say go for both. There is nothing that can match OpenOffice when it comes to Microsoft Office compatibility I think but since it is big, it is best to also include lightweight alternatives as Abiword/Gnumeric. As for web browser, the only browser I've

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Forum

Thanks! On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:16 PM, jon york wrote: > Hi guys > > here is the forum location, just a quick and free forum for us, I am a > webmaster, and own my own host, so we can discuss that later when we > actually have a beta version to release to public, and we are ready to > submit

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] going small

Absolutely. Not including something does not prevent someone from adding something later if they want or need it. I think the "base" seed should be as small as practical. Dallas Wiebelhaus wrote: > I vote go small , if someone wants songbird or Firefox or liferea or > pidgin let them fetch it. >

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] (no subject)

+1 On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Dallas Wiebelhaus wrote: > I vote go small , if someone wants songbird or Firefox or liferea or pidgin > let them fetch it. > > ___ > Mailing list: > https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop

[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

I think we should go with Firefox. However, OpenOffice would solve the problem of having no presentation software if we went with Abiword & Gnumeric. We could use these tweaks to speed up OpenOffice. >>> http://lifehacker.com/software/optimization/speed-up-openoffice-270775.php By going "small", w

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

Also we could learn a allot from the puppy project they have already banged out years of learning the hardway! And today they have the quintessential light weight desktop of out of the box that can run on anything after a 486. On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Ed Hewitt wrote: > I think we should

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

Related to this question is what to do with what is currently the separate lxde blueprint in Launchpad: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-karmic-lxde-ubuntu-desktop I would be happy to see about transferring it to the Lubuntu Team if the Lubuntu team does wish to formally take

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

Good eye there David! On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:15 PM, David Sugar wrote: > Related to this question is what to do with what is currently the > separate lxde blueprint in Launchpad: > > > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-karmic-lxde-ubuntu-desktop > > I would be happy to see a

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

I've been looking at the VLC build flags, and it looks like it is possible to be compiled without the qt4 dependencies. Wouldn't that make it a viable solution as a media player? I am looking more into it... Adam On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Dallas Wiebelhaus wrote: > Also we could learn a

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

Yes it would and it's very small , minuscule foot print but very very powerful and modern. On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:48 PM, AdamBOT wrote: > I've been looking at the VLC build flags, and it looks like it is possible > to be compiled without the qt4 dependencies. Wouldn't that make it a viable >

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

Sorry for such a quick followup, but i found that in the current ubuntu repos there is vlc-nox There is also a gvlc project ( http://www.ohloh.net/p/gvlc) that is a gtk frontend for vlc -- this was in dapper but is no longer available in our repos, but i think it is definitely something we need t

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

OpenOffice in my opinion is far too bulky for a lightweight distro. 0 upgraded, 44 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 123MB of archives. After this operation, 412MB of additional disk space will be used. Its just stupidly fat and bloated and doesn't fit with the ethos of

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

I agree Abiword is so incredibly fast and small and if someone has not tried it they should give it a spin , it's a brilliant little application! I could foresee someone adding openoffice if they needed that extra functionality but for simple out of the box word processing in a small efficient quic

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

It's not copying, it is as you say learning from others. OpenOffice just isn't suitable but will be accessible via reops if you must install it. I personally only use abiword and know a great many users who have the entire suite installed and only use the writer. Its laughable. On Tue, Jun 30, 200

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

Yep , but Debian LXDE does have the entire open office suite installed and it weights in at just under 500 megs. On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Andrew Woodhead < andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com> wrote: > It's not copying, it is as you say learning from others. OpenOffice just > isn't suitable

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

during some of the earlier IRC meetings there was a suggestion made that why don't we create something along the lines of these are not installed, but are good apps, ooo would fit in there nicely i believe. Adam On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Andrew Woodhead < andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com>

[Lubuntu-desktop] U-Lite

For some reason I had forgotten that U-Lite was using LXDE , I thought they were using XFCE , maybe because of the recent alpha screenshots. I just want to make sure that the Lubuntu people are Aware of U-Lite are these two projects related or completely separate? http://u-lite.org/ _

[Lubuntu-desktop] I think it is important to....

I think it is important to include only lightweight programs in lubuntu. Lubuntu doesn't need openoffice, if people want bloat like that, they can just get ubuntu. Lubuntu should be light. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] U-Lite

Hi, there was a discussion about U-lite already. With lubuntu we have a chance to bring together people working / who have worked on different derivates. Also notable is Mint. We are very happy that Shae of U-lite is also a member of lubuntu. -- Mario On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Dallas Wi

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] I think it is important to....

I just threw together with LXDE and Ubuntu base for experimentation and abiword does run much better then openoffice on this DE it seems , I'm sure others will perform their own tests but I just wanted to let you guys know that I'm testing some things , like some of the idea's that were suggested t

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 18:40 +0100, Ed Hewitt and several others wrote: Restating the obvious, but the engineering trade off is always between "ease of use/fully featured" on the one hand and lightweight on the other. The necessary criterion is to decide what we really want to build, and make it

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] U-Lite

Good to hear! thanks for the info! On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Mario Behling wrote: > Hi, > > there was a discussion about U-lite already. With lubuntu we have a > chance to bring together people working / who have worked on different > derivates. Also notable is Mint. > > We are very happy

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] U-Lite

On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 18:46 -0500, Dallas Wiebelhaus wrote: > For some reason I had forgotten that U-Lite was using LXDE , I thought > they were using XFCE , maybe because of the recent alpha screenshots. > > I just want to make sure that the Lubuntu people are Aware of U-Lite > are these two proj

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] U-Lite

Hey! That's great no need for details if they are private I just wanted to make sure by getting involved there was not going to be any toes being stepped on. On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 7:16 PM, C David Rigby wrote: > On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 18:46 -0500, Dallas Wiebelhaus wrote: > > For some reason I h

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] I think it is important to....

+1 this, 100% On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Tnelson Downs wrote: > I think it is important to include only lightweight programs in > lubuntu. Lubuntu doesn't need openoffice, if people want bloat like > that, they can just get ubuntu. Lubuntu should be light. > > _

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

This is kinda surplus, the system is still ubuntu based so the standard repos can be used to install apps if they are needed. If the OS is going to be as it says below, you may as well install a minimal install then have a gui to select apps which can then be installed off the repos. This however i

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] U-Lite

There's also MoonOS. There are many distros with LXDE as default DE. http://www.moonos.co.cc/ On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Dallas Wiebelhaus wrote: > For some reason I had forgotten that U-Lite was using LXDE , I thought they > were using XFCE , maybe because of the recent alpha screensho

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

By the way , Chrome fits in like it's native and is running hella fast on this DE on my test box. I'm about to crank the ram down and see how low I can get. On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Andrew Woodhead < andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com> wrote: > This is kinda surplus, the system is still ub

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

Stabilized without hiccups at 128mb ram , that's without youtube lagging out , you can go lower no doubt. On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Dallas Wiebelhaus wrote: > By the way , Chrome fits in like it's native and is running hella fast on > this DE on my test box. I'm about to crank the ram down

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

Hi guys, why dont we move this to the forum where it can be easier to document and organize these conversations? also on that topic, in my opinion, we need to divide us into work partners, as right now, there is much discussion and no work being done. I think the first step, is quite simply th

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

Give me a few days (as the work week is here) And I can get something ready that we can pass around. That is with the go ahead from the people running this thing , I was told on IRC that they were still working on something before releasing an ISO , But in any case now or later I'm willing to do th