Re: [lubuntu-users] Google NOT as default homepage

2016-12-06 Thread Israel
On 12/06/2016 09:47 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 08:05:31 -0700, Mark F wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 5:05 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> In short, Jane Doe wants Google [...] *doesn't care* if some >>> software she installed phones home or not. >> Does she even know? > She

Re: [lubuntu-users] Google NOT as default homepage

2016-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 08:05:31 -0700, Mark F wrote: >On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 5:05 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> In short, Jane Doe wants Google [...] *doesn't care* if some >> software she installed phones home or not. > >Does she even know? She doesn't, or at best she heard about it on television and

Re: [lubuntu-users] Google NOT as default homepage

2016-12-06 Thread Mark F
On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 5:05 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > In short, Jane Doe wants Google, she anyway does use facebook, twitter > and orders from amzon, she *doesn't care* what Richard Stallman thinks > about Ubuntu spyware and she *doesn't care* if some software she

Re: [lubuntu-users] Google NOT as default homepage

2016-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
That is your second off-list reply. Sorry, but I will take one point of this second off-list mail back to the mailing list. Off-list you pointed out that we have good alternatives like duckduckgo, startpage and maybe others. In the past, when ixquick (now startpage) wasn't available, some

Re: [lubuntu-users] Google NOT as default homepage

2016-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi, several users of the Ubuntu flavour 'Ubuntu Studio' are activists who care much about security. We had a lot of discussions on the users and developers list. With one voice we brought down to the common denominator, that security and privacy aren't a state a distro could provide, it requires

Re: [lubuntu-users] Google NOT as default homepage

2016-12-05 Thread Liam Proven
On 5 December 2016 at 17:46, wrote: > I just tried to point at a privacy bug. That you don't see it is not that > important. But i hope someone else will see it then. No you did not. You tried to point at something that does not match _your personal preference_. The

Re: [lubuntu-users] Google NOT as default homepage

2016-12-05 Thread Liam Proven
On 5 December 2016 at 16:57, wrote: > No hard feelings, you may thank me in a couple of years once you realise my > concerns. Your extended answer does not in fact respond to my point in any way. It's just a paranoid rant about privacy. Furthermore, try not to be so

Re: [lubuntu-users] Google NOT as default homepage

2016-12-05 Thread scrooyahoo
On 2016-12-05 16:07, Liam Proven wrote: On 5 December 2016 at 15:54, wrote: Would it be possible to have a less privacy invading home page pre-configured Once we use a bowser, the very fist hit is used by google to create our 'profile' / personal file / NSA file /

Re: [lubuntu-users] Google NOT as default homepage

2016-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi, Ubuntu is disputed for some software, that some people consider to be "spyware". However, in regards to web browsers it's most likely upstream who comes with a default start page, not Ubuntu. I suspect for a default Ubuntu install, the default browser is Firefox. The average Firefox user