Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-05-09 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi Walter, Unetbootin had a corresponding issue to that of bug #1325801 for usb-creator, and maybe also some other bug. The version in Ubuntu's repositories is still bad, but if you get Unetbootin from the developer's PPA, it works well. (I have tested it.) mkusb is not affected by this bug, beca

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-05-08 Thread Walter Lapchynski
but this bug only affects usb-creator, correct? silverlion had trouble with media he created in windows using the i386 iso. md5 matched up, but testing media causes some bad sector error. repeatably does this on multiple usb drives but no problem with the lts version. I can't reproduce but he relia

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-05-05 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-05-05 19:03, Aere Greenway skrev: > On 05/05/2015 09:00 AM, Israel wrote: >> At least we have *mkusb*, which is all I really use anyway. It is >> much faster (on the order of magnitudes) and is not prone to errors, >> or these kinds of strange bugs. > So how do we get the "mkusb" applicat

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-05-05 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-05-05 17:00, Israel skrev: > On 05/05/2015 08:28 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >> Den 2015-05-03 01:35, Nio Wiklund skrev: >>> ... >> Hi again, >> >> One step further with the Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator: >> >> I finally found that bug 1325801 >> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-c

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-05-05 Thread Aere Greenway
On 05/05/2015 09:00 AM, Israel wrote: At least we have *mkusb*, which is all I really use anyway. It is much faster (on the order of magnitudes) and is not prone to errors, or these kinds of strange bugs. So how do we get the "mkusb" application? It's not in the repository (at least, not unde

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-05-05 Thread Israel
On 05/05/2015 08:28 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > Den 2015-05-03 01:35, Nio Wiklund skrev: >> ... > Hi again, > > One step further with the Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator: > > I finally found that bug 1325801 > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/1325801 > > is fixed now with some

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-05-05 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-05-03 01:35, Nio Wiklund skrev: > Den 2015-05-03 00:31, Aere Greenway skrev: >> On 05/02/2015 03:52 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >>> Den 2015-05-02 23:33, Aere Greenway skrev: On 04/29/2015 12:50 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > I think this bug (1325801) is fixed for the Ubuntu Startup Disk Cr

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-05-02 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-05-03 00:31, Aere Greenway skrev: > On 05/02/2015 03:52 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >> Den 2015-05-02 23:33, Aere Greenway skrev: >>> On 04/29/2015 12:50 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: I think this bug (1325801) is fixed for the Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator - in 15.04. At least it is announced

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-05-02 Thread Aere Greenway
On 05/02/2015 03:52 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: Den 2015-05-02 23:33, Aere Greenway skrev: On 04/29/2015 12:50 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: I think this bug (1325801) is fixed for the Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator - in 15.04. At least it is announced as fixed. Probably the bug-fix will trickle down to 14.10

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-05-02 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-05-02 23:33, Aere Greenway skrev: > On 04/29/2015 12:50 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >> I think this bug (1325801) is fixed for the Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator >> - in 15.04. At least it is announced as fixed. Probably the bug-fix will >> trickle down to 14.10 and 14.04.3 LTS. But right now it i

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-05-02 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/29/2015 12:50 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: I think this bug (1325801) is fixed for the Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator - in 15.04. At least it is announced as fixed. Probably the bug-fix will trickle down to 14.10 and 14.04.3 LTS. But right now it is not there in 14.04.2 LTS. I have not enabled propo

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-29 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-04-29 13:30, Nio Wiklund skrev: > Den 2015-04-29 10:54, Nio Wiklund skrev: >> Den 2015-04-29 09:57, Nio Wiklund skrev: >>> Den 2015-04-29 09:13, Nio Wiklund skrev: Den 2015-04-28 21:26, Aere Greenway skrev: ... > Nio: > > The pendrive (USB drive) was created with unet

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-29 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-04-29 14:48, Israel skrev: > On 04/29/2015 06:30 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >> ... >> The fourth attempt failed: >> >> I tried with Unetbootin from my production system (Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS), >> but it failed with the same symptom. >> >> -o- >> >> The fifth attempt succeeded: >> >> First I clea

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-29 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/29/2015 02:27 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: Maybe the problem is that I try installing it from a*live* Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS system. In my experience, I have always been installing 15.04 (using a USB drive created by unetbooting, on a current 14.04.2 system. I have (in all cases) been installing

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-29 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/29/2015 02:07 AM, Leszek Lesner wrote: did you only tried booting the default boot entry that unetbootin creates ? This sometimes is messed up and choosing the correct boot entry solves this. I always select the "Try Lubuntu Without Installing" entry. -- Sincerely, Aere -- Lubuntu-users

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-29 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/28/2015 01:10 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: I think you have found a bug. If you tell us also the version of Unetbootin(?), Lubuntu Vivid desktop or Lubuntu Vivid alternate? 32-bit or 64-bit? Maybe we need some other critical data too. Then we can repeat your test-case. Nio, and all: In testing

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-29 Thread Israel
On 04/29/2015 06:30 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > ... > The fourth attempt failed: > > I tried with Unetbootin from my production system (Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS), > but it failed with the same symptom. > > -o- > > The fifth attempt succeeded: > > First I cleaned to pendrive to decrease the risk of 'gridlock

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-29 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-04-29 10:54, Nio Wiklund skrev: > Den 2015-04-29 09:57, Nio Wiklund skrev: >> Den 2015-04-29 09:13, Nio Wiklund skrev: >>> Den 2015-04-28 21:26, Aere Greenway skrev: >>> ... Nio: The pendrive (USB drive) was created with unetbootin on Lubuntu 14.04 (current). The versi

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-29 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-04-29 10:38, Leszek Lesner skrev: > Am 29.04.2015 um 10:27 schrieb Nio Wiklund: >> Den 2015-04-29 10:07, Leszek Lesner skrev: >>> Hi Nio, >>> >>> did you only tried booting the default boot entry that unetbootin creates ? >>> This sometimes is messed up and choosing the correct boot entry

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-29 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-04-29 09:57, Nio Wiklund skrev: > Den 2015-04-29 09:13, Nio Wiklund skrev: >> Den 2015-04-28 21:26, Aere Greenway skrev: >> ... >>> Nio: >>> >>> The pendrive (USB drive) was created with unetbootin on Lubuntu 14.04 >>> (current). The version info (from Synaptic package manager) is: >>> 58

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-29 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 29.04.2015 um 10:27 schrieb Nio Wiklund: > Den 2015-04-29 10:07, Leszek Lesner skrev: >> Hi Nio, >> >> did you only tried booting the default boot entry that unetbootin creates ? >> This sometimes is messed up and choosing the correct boot entry solves >> this. >> >> A method that always worked

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-29 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-04-29 10:07, Leszek Lesner skrev: > Hi Nio, > > did you only tried booting the default boot entry that unetbootin creates ? > This sometimes is messed up and choosing the correct boot entry solves > this. > > A method that always worked for me is dd'ing the ISO image to the USB > pendriv

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-29 Thread Leszek Lesner
Hi Nio, did you only tried booting the default boot entry that unetbootin creates ? This sometimes is messed up and choosing the correct boot entry solves this. A method that always worked for me is dd'ing the ISO image to the USB pendrive. So the command sudo dd if=/path/to/lubuntu.iso of=/dev/

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-29 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-04-29 09:13, Nio Wiklund skrev: > Den 2015-04-28 21:26, Aere Greenway skrev: > ... >> Nio: >> >> The pendrive (USB drive) was created with unetbootin on Lubuntu 14.04 >> (current). The version info (from Synaptic package manager) is: >> 585-2ubuntu1. I had 4000 megabytes of persistent sp

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-29 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-04-28 21:26, Aere Greenway skrev: ... > Nio: > > The pendrive (USB drive) was created with unetbootin on Lubuntu 14.04 > (current). The version info (from Synaptic package manager) is: > 585-2ubuntu1. I had 4000 megabytes of persistent space on it. > > I originally tried creating the U

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-28 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-04-28 22:06, Aere Greenway skrev: > On 04/28/2015 01:42 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >> In fact, when I mount the drive on my system after that, it is mounted >> >read-only. >> > > Nio: > > Beware that this particular drive is now always treated as read-only, > and after trying with gparted for

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-28 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/28/2015 01:42 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: In fact, when I mount the drive on my system after that, it is mounted >read-only. > Nio: Beware that this particular drive is now always treated as read-only, and after trying with gparted for over an hour, I cannot change that. I cannot reformat i

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-28 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-04-28 21:26, Aere Greenway skrev: > On 04/28/2015 01:10 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >> This is interesting:-) >> >> - Was the system transferred to the pendrive with Unetbootin? Did you >> activate persistence? Why should things be written to sdb1 (unless we >> are talking about writing the fil

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-28 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/28/2015 01:10 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: This is interesting:-) - Was the system transferred to the pendrive with Unetbootin? Did you activate persistence? Why should things be written to sdb1 (unless we are talking about writing the files for persistence for example log files, .bash_history e

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-28 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-04-28 20:41, Aere Greenway skrev: > On 04/26/2015 11:28 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >> What happens if you do the same procedure with another USB pendrive? >> In other words, could it be caused by a defect of the pendrive? > I put Ubuntu 15.04 (Unity desktop, AMD64) on a different USB drive, an

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-28 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/26/2015 11:28 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: What happens if you do the same procedure with another USB pendrive? In other words, could it be caused by a defect of the pendrive? I put Ubuntu 15.04 (Unity desktop, AMD64) on a different USB drive, and didn't install any additional packages on that U

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-27 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/26/2015 11:28 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: I think there is a bug. This should not happen: Installing Lubuntu should not alter the USB pendrive, from which it is being installed. I doubt that the problem is the bootloader, because it boots to the Unetbootin menu (if I understand correctly). It s

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-26 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-04-26 23:31, Aere Greenway skrev: > On 04/26/2015 02:54 PM, Brendan Perrine wrote: >> On Sunday, April 26, 2015 8:18:08 PM UTC, Aere Greenway wrote: >>> I know it successfully wrote the GRUB-PC bootloader to the hard-drive >>> of the machine being installed-to, because that system worked f

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-26 Thread Israel
Hi, I think there is some sort of issue with isolinux. In 14.10 isolinux changed A LOT So I think there is something that doesn't always go right making startup disks for: versions > 14.10 when using <=14.04 and using >=14.10 to make disks for <14.10 This has effected startup disk creator,

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-26 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/26/2015 02:54 PM, Brendan Perrine wrote: On Sunday, April 26, 2015 8:18:08 PM UTC, Aere Greenway wrote: I know it successfully wrote the GRUB-PC bootloader to the hard-drive of the machine being installed-to, because that system worked fine, and the new system is the one that is initially

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-26 Thread Brendan Perrine
On Sunday, April 26, 2015 8:18:08 PM UTC, Aere Greenway wrote: I know it successfully wrote the GRUB-PC bootloader to the hard-drive of the machine being installed-to, because that system worked fine, and the new system is the one that is initially selected in the GRUB menu (it used to be a dif

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-26 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/26/2015 11:51 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: When it happened, was the bootloader also written to the internal drive Nio: I know it successfully wrote the GRUB-PC bootloader to the hard-drive of the machine being installed-to, because that system worked fine, and the new system is the one that

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-26 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/26/2015 11:51 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: Did I understand correctly, that installing systems will overwrite the boot sector of the installer (the USB pendrive)? Had you used Unetbootin to make those USB systems? Installing systems should write the bootloader to only one target, and it should b

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-26 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi Aere and all other Lubuntu users, I agree that Lubuntu 15.04 is a good version :-) Also 'Encrypted home with cryptswap' has started to work again, and as you wrote Aere, many old graphics chips work. I have confidence in your expert judgement about audio. -o- Did I understand correctly, that

Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-admins] 15.04 - Installation Experience

2015-04-26 Thread Aere Greenway
All: Lubuntu 15.04, in my test experience so far, is a very good release. I have encountered no problems in my MIDI music testing. Also, graphics chips that were poorly supported (or not supported at all) in 14.10, work perfectly now. In 14.10, the challenging music (many parts) played usin