ornaments in Board

2003-11-22 Thread Ed Durbrow
Does anyone have any thoughts about the ornaments in the Board manuscript? There is a plus sign (+) and a dot to the side of a note that I'm encountering in Sellngers Rounde. I feel that the + can be a mordant or backfall from below. It is especially effective as a backfall when you do it like

Re: fretted ud

2003-11-22 Thread Ed Durbrow
>Hi Ed: > >It is my understanding that the Ud is fretless and has only a single first >course. I am no authority on the Ud, I am just echoing what I have learned >around here and in some reading. That's my understanding too, - of today's uds. Daniel Franke has mentioned that early uds had frets.

Re: Iconography (was:The Right Hand Revisited)

2003-11-22 Thread Ed Durbrow
>Another thing which has been pointed out on this list, is that you could >simplify difficult passages/chords by ommitting inner voices. Were many of >those full Renaissance chords ment to be simplified? Did Galilei, Newsidler >et. al. put all the voices in there to give the player the option of ch

Re: Iconography (was:The Right Hand Revisited)

2003-11-22 Thread Ed Durbrow
>Hi Ed, > >| Speaking of which, I couldn't figure out how to download McFeely's >| pictures in one swoop. Everything else is in PDF. > >I thought you could find her collection in a folder of JPGs, but haven't >looked lately. I can download one picture at a time by dragging them to the desktop, bu

Christmas music

2003-11-22 Thread Jason Kortis
Hello all, I've arranged a few Christmas tunes for lute (or guitar) and will eventually post the results at the Fronimo group. I was wondering if anyone had any requests, as I plan to do a few more. Regards, Jason

Re: Milano for the Beginer

2003-11-22 Thread Vance Wood
Dear Ariel: My Lute teacher once told me there are no easy Lute pieces. I would like to add to that axiom; there are just boring ones. Part of teaching an instrument is to challenge technically, and musically. In order to do that I believe that the compositions worked on should be worth the effo

Re: Tormento ed estasi

2003-11-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
AND there is a new item for Baroque Lute as well, #20. RT > Dear e-friends, > I have just posted for your COMPARATIVE perusal and delectation (RENAISSANCE > LUTE ONLY) a Polish version of La Mantovana (Ballo Polacco, Danzig MS.???) AND > its Ukrainian fraternal twin (originally a fiddle dance tune,

Re: My Berr 10-course

2003-11-22 Thread Martin Shepherd
- Original Message - From: Arto Wikla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 22 November 2003 09:13 Subject: My Berr 10-course > > Dear lutenists > > I have the S. Barber version of 10-course Berr. And as someone > wrote, the shape of the body is very beautiful. You can >

FW: Tormento ed estasi

2003-11-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
Dear e-friends, I have just posted for your COMPARATIVE perusal and delectation (RENAISSANCE LUTE ONLY) a Polish version of La Mantovana (Ballo Polacco, Danzig MS.???) AND its Ukrainian fraternal twin (originally a fiddle dance tune, intabulated by yours truly). All is on page 4 at http://www.polyh

Re: Conversion between Cripp's tab and text file

2003-11-22 Thread Leonard Williams
Tony-- _Not_ the wrong way around: Michael Graham wrote a program (convert.bas), which I have used extensively, to convert Sauter's ascii to Wayne's TAB; the results needed modification. BUT Donald Sauter, for his own use, has written a program which writes an elabo

Re: Iconography (was:The Right Hand Revisited)

2003-11-22 Thread Daniel F Heiman
The Boston Museum of Fine Arts has a photo of the Andreas Berr lute online at http://www.mfa.org/artemis/fullrecord.asp?oid=51267&did=600 Regards, Daniel Heiman On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:23:27 -0600 "Michael Thames" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Vance, . The Berr is a very elegant tear drop sh

FW: Tormento ed estasi

2003-11-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
Dear e-friends, I have just posted for your COMPARATIVE perusal and delectation (RENAISSANCE LUTE ONLY) a Polish version of La Mantovana (Ballo Polacco, Danzig MS.???) AND its Ukrainian fraternal twin (originally a fiddle dance tune, intabulated by yours truly). All is at page 4 in http://www.polyh

Re: Milano for the Beginer

2003-11-22 Thread arielabramovich
Dear Vance, no matter if it is in Italian of French tab, I personally think that Francesco (even the "easier" pieces) is definitively not the right music for beginners. Can be played, but I would recommend something else - less complex- if I had a student starting from zero.

Re: Conversion between Cripp's tab and text file

2003-11-22 Thread Tony Chalkley
Back again - No, the program (in Visual Basic, by Michael Graham) will not work as it stands. Sauters files have a standard line length, a title format, and each staff starts with an unbroken line, which tells the program that it is a staff to read. The flags are also different. I'm sure it woul

Re: Conversion between Cripp's tab and text file

2003-11-22 Thread G.R. Crona
TXS Leonard, of course Donald is the guy to talk to! I'd checked his software ages ago, but forgot that it converted Cripp's tab to the very readable guitar tab. My excuse (not very valid) is, I only had a demo... Best Regards Göran - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EM

Re: Conversion between Cripp's tab and text file

2003-11-22 Thread Tony Chalkley
I think you've got it the wrong way round, Leonard. Sauter's files look more like the playable pieces in monospace that are more often given as examples on the list. There is a program that will strip them and turn them into Wayne's TAB type files, but I don't think it will work on the sort that

Milano for the Beginer

2003-11-22 Thread Vance Wood
Here is a wonderful, beautiful and easy Fantasia by F. DaMilano. It is in Italian tab so here is another exercise for you who are just starting to graduate from French tab. Do yourself a favor, learn Italian tab there is so much really good stuff written in this notation that you would be robbing

Re: My Berr 10-course

2003-11-22 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Vance, Thomas and all Vance wrote: > What is the string length of this instrument? It looks to be about the same > size as my Lute. By the way it is a beautiful Lute. Back appears to be of > Rosewood which goes really well with what appears to be an ebony veneered > neck, as we have be

Re: Iconography (was:The Right Hand Revisited)

2003-11-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
A potted lute, now that's an idea... RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://turovsky.org http://polyhymnion.org > Roman wrote: So you went for a bonsai lute.. > > Leave it to you to have nothing good to say to, or about, anyone. We went > for what we perceived as

Re: My Berr 10-course

2003-11-22 Thread Vance Wood
Dear Arto: What is the string length of this instrument? It looks to be about the same size as my Lute. By the way it is a beautiful Lute. Back appears to be of Rosewood which goes really well with what appears to be an ebony veneered neck, as we have been discussing in another string. Vance W

Re: Conversion between Cripp's tab and text file

2003-11-22 Thread arckon
Donald Sauter, at website http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/7049/ created a program which he uses to write ascii-tab from an input file quite similar in appearance to Wayne's TAB input. His program writes guitar tab, his preference as a guitarist. It's very readable. Perhaps he could

Re: Phlip VanWilder

2003-11-22 Thread Vance Wood
Dear Arthur: Thank you very much for the information, both about the Broude Bros. and Chris Goodwin. I will contact Chris ASAP. Vance Wood. - Original Message - From: "Arthur Ness (boston)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Vance Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 10:29 PM

Re: Mystery intitials

2003-11-22 Thread Vance Wood
Hi Michael: There is no way I can know for sure, or anyone else for that matter, but a good guess it is the initials of the builder. Often Lute building was a family operation involving sons and cousins. It is of course possible that the initials belong to the maker that made the modifications.

Re: fretted ud

2003-11-22 Thread Doctor Oakroot
Actually the modern oud has a single sixth string. Vance Wood wrote: > Hi Ed: > > It is my understanding that the Ud is fretless and has only a single first > course. I am no authority on the Ud, I am just echoing what I have learned > around here and in some reading. However contrary to what mo

Re: My Berr 10-course

2003-11-22 Thread Thomas Schall
Wasn't the Berr a baroque lute? I recall one in the posession of Count Losy or the Lobcovic family (would have to look it up). Thomas Am Sam, 2003-11-22 um 10.13 schrieb Arto Wikla: > Dear lutenists > > I have the S. Barber version of 10-course Berr. And as someone > wrote, the shape of the bod

Conversion between Cripp's tab and text file

2003-11-22 Thread G.R. Crona
Dear List, after posting my little version of the Rosetta stone, it struck me, that it probably wouldn't be very difficult for one of the computer wizards of this list, to write a simple program which could convert TAB to the text-file which seems to be prefered by this forum. I don't have such kn

Re: Iconography (was:The Right Hand Revisited)

2003-11-22 Thread G.R. Crona
Hi Ed, | Speaking of which, I couldn't figure out how to download McFeely's | pictures in one swoop. Everything else is in PDF. I thought you could find her collection in a folder of JPGs, but haven't looked lately. | I'm so glad you mentioned this. I just bought a WONDERFUL John | Rollins alto

Re: Castelfranco MS.

2003-11-22 Thread G.R. Crona
No, D., they don't seem to be published yet. Why, I don't know... As I understand it, the work is in progress in Italy, so there are still hopes. But one duet, from the UK Lute society (ed. Gregory) is available. Göran - Original Message - From: "D. Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL

Re: Harrach collection

2003-11-22 Thread J. Luis Rojo
Dear Arthur, I already have the Meili-Schall duets CD, but I had forgotten the name of "Gleimius" absolutely! Indeed, is the last duet of the CD. Gracias for your answer. Un saludo muy cordial. Jose Luis Arthur Ness (boston) wrote: >Dear José Luis, > >You can sample the Gleimus work on a nicely

My Berr 10-course

2003-11-22 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists I have the S. Barber version of 10-course Berr. And as someone wrote, the shape of the body is very beautiful. You can see some old pictures of my Berr in http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/LutePics/Berr.gif http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/LutePics/ArtoBerr.gif (In th

Re: Harrach collection

2003-11-22 Thread Arthur Ness (boston)
Dear José Luis, You can sample the Gleimus work on a nicely played CD by Jürg Meili and Thomas Schall, "Galante Lautenduette" (Lute Corner CD 0101). That is Andreas Schlegel's firm and they surely have a web site. (Yes, www.lutecorner.ch). The quality of this music is unusally high on this CD, i