On Martedì, giu 8, 2004, at 07:10 Europe/Rome, Jon Murphy wrote:
> What is "re-entrant tuning".
reentrant tuning is when the strings you would normally expect to be
lower are actually higher in pitch - nearer to the 1st string than the
last. in other words the strings don't run in a progressi
A great book! I really do like Kiplings books but only know them in
german so I cannot help with quotes.
Thomas
Am Die, 2004-06-08 um 06.53 schrieb Jon Murphy:
> Yes, but in this country if you ask someone: "Do you like Kipling?", you'll
> get an answer: "I don't know, how does one kiple?". Hen
Dear Sean and Craig,
I think a,c,e,a was a slip of the computer keyboard. (Assuming a 1st
course tuned to a') Mudarra gives two tunings for the guitar:
a',e',c',g and a',e',c',f. (I prefer to list the strings starting
with the 1st course, i.e. the one highest in pitch.)
It all depends what you me
Dear All,
While examining the Scolar Press facsimile of Campion's "My sweetest
Lesbia" to be able to reply to Peter Nightingales' query, my mind
turned to note values. It is perfectly clear from this song, or
indeed any other song from this period, that the tablature rhythm
sign
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Dear Peter,
For those who are unfamiliar with this lute song, Campion's "My
sweetest Lesbia" is the first song in Rosseter's _A Booke of Ayres_
(London, 1601). As you say, it starts in "3" time. The lute
tablature starts like this:
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Dear Stewart,
many thanks for your excellent posting. Your mails are always very
interesting and of great value!
You are absolutely right, that most of the modern editions etc. give
wrong impression of the original notation. There are also some charts
which give the corrcet relationship betwee
Dear Stewart;
By the 18th century tablature rhythm signs are the same as
modern rhythm signs. For instance, facsimiles of E.G. Baron's music
list time signatures, and pieces in 3/4 time have the quarternote
(crotchet) listed as a vertical line, the eighthnot
Just a small correction to something Arthur said:
"The message was a genuine warning from Chris Goodwin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]),
administrator of the Lute
Society of Great Britain (as they now call themselves)."
In fact the Lute Society based in the UK, of which Chris Goodwin is
secretary, is called
Dear Stewart,
I understand what you are saying and it makes sense. As a matter of fact,
this is precisely how I count Campions' Fire, Fire (Third Book of Ayres,
XX). However, there is a difference: Fire, Fire goes from C to 3 and,
whereas My sweetest Lesbia goes from 3 to C-slash. The implicatio
>On Martedì, giu 8, 2004, at 07:10 Europe/Rome, Jon Murphy wrote:
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> > What is "re-entrant tuning".
--I thought re-entrant tuning was when you stop the other guys from playing
so you get a second chance to tune.
--In a solo setting, re-entrant tuning means to stop mid-way through a
piece to ad
recursive tuning would certainly be useful for a nigerian single stringed
lute . It sounds a bit like the Theramin!
Charles
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From: Alain Veylit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 June 2004 17:43
To: bill; Jon Murphy
Cc: James A Stimson; lute society
Subject: Re: really ba
Dear Peter,
Campion's "Fire, fire" is similar to "My sweetest Lesbia", in that
both have changes of meter. Here I think the dotted minim of the
words "Come Trent and Humber" is the same as the minim of the
preceding section, and the same as the minim of the following
section, "And if you can". It
Dear Dary,
You're absolutely right, of course, but the rhythm signs in the 18th
century are quite different to the rhythm flags used in the 16th
century. They are two distinct systems.
In the early 17th century the old rhythm flags were often replaced
with conventional rhythm signs - crotchets, q
>Oh, I thought that tuning in fifths involved Jack Daniels. It never
really sounded right, but after most of a fifth, I didn't care.
Tim
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Dear Alain,
that's wonderful! You saved my evening after a particular hard day.
I'm going to try to tune my lute now ...
Cheers, Joachim
"Alain Veylit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
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>>On Martedì, giu 8, 2004, at 07:10 Europe/Rome, Jon Murphy wrote:
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>> > What is "re-entrant tuning".
>
>--I t
I was recently advised to prefer diapasons to bourbons for my lute's bass
courses - unfortunately, old habits die hard... Is a "fifth" really a unit
of measure for whisky?
Alain
Charles,
Hence the definition of the Nigerian scam: an out-of-tune one-string lute
from that country...
Alain
PS: Ashcroft tuning(3): the act of clipping strings on the wrong side of
the bridge.
At 10:04 AM 6/8/2004, Charles Browne wrote:
>recursive tuning would certainly be useful for a nigeria
>
>--Tuned in fourths: when you only bother to tune every fourth string
>--Tuned in fifths: no one is lazy enough in the lute world to do it, but
>widely in use in the violin family of instruments
Lutes are never tuned in seconds because it usually takes much longer than
that.
Sean
Am Die, 2004-06-08 um 22.33 schrieb lutesmith:
> Lutes are never tuned in seconds because it usually takes much longer than
> that.
>
Wrong! Ask Stefan how (if ever) I tune my 10-course. It's *very* fast (I
told him I would have bought it tuned and it would stay in tune since
then. All a matte
don't worry...this will all blow over soon. the important thing is to
stay put, sit tight and don't leave your shelters.
On Martedì, giu 8, 2004, at 22:33 Europe/Rome, lutesmith wrote:
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>> --Tuned in fourths: when you only bother to tune every fourth string
>> --Tuned in fifths: no one is l
Stewart McCoy wrote:
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> The note known as a "long" would not normally feature in tablature,
> because tablature was nearly always barred. If a very long note was
> required ("long" or otherwise), it would be notated as lots of
> shorter notes tied together from one bar to the next.
Milan us
Alain Veylit wrote:
> Is a "fifth" really a unit
> of measure for whisky?
And any other liquor, including wine. 750 ml is close enough to a fifth of
a gallon not to worry about the difference.
I don't get the Ashcroft jokes, BTW.
Dear Rainer,
You're quite right, of course. Milan uses a long for the final note
of his pieces. Whether he means the last chord to be held for the
full length of a long, or it is a way of showing the end of the
piece and you let the notes ring on for as long as necessary, is
neither here nor there
Yes, I saw the designation "Lute Society of Great Britiain" from someone on
this list, and thought the Society had altered its name. I can't remember
who it was, but it was someone I thought would be in a position to know.
When I wrote to Chris, I asked. He said there had been no change. I too
s
Howard, all,
Serious and sincere apologies for getting the giggles on that tuning thing
and for all the bad jokes -
The Ashcroft references come from a WEB page I read recently detailing some
comments he made regarding Classical music in general and opera in
particular: Ashcroft seems to conside
Alright, ooopsie, the Cultural bureau is a hoax... I had to go all the way
to the Job opportunities page to figure it out for sure... Who knows: the
beautiful song in the second link might be a fake too. Have the Sauceks
taken over the whole WEB?
Alain
At 05:48 PM 6/8/04, Alain Veylit wrote:
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