> > A quote from the american renaissance faire magazine
>"Renaissance" about this subject=20
> >
>> "Almost little music used on faires is actually period, but the
>>music does=20
> > not damage the illusion of living history, because it "seems"
>period. The case=20
> > could even be made
> "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
>>> while i take "baroque lute music" to mean anything played during the
>>> baroque period on anything from the lute related family,
>> You really shouldn't. Imagine: you are on a Bentley list. What response
>> would you get on a Ford Pinto question
> I think it's a fair question, because towns and villages have been
> around for many centuries, as have the rich and the poor. It is
> reasonable to suppose that music has not always been the same for
> all strata of society. However, it is difficult to give a thorough
> answer through lack of ev
i have spam problems with my server - everything i initiate at my
address seems to fall foul of wayne's spam protection. the only way i
can post something is by clearing someone else's contribution and
submit it as a reply.
so, till things get cleared up here and until i can be sure that spam
Dear Roman,
I think it's a fair question, because towns and villages have been
around for many centuries, as have the rich and the poor. It is
reasonable to suppose that music has not always been the same for
all strata of society. However, it is difficult to give a thorough
answer through lack of
Dear Mathias,
Presumably the 2nd finger for g1 at the start of bar 25 is indicated
in the source. If so, and the 1st finger (barré) plays f5, all you
have left is the 3rd and 4th finger to choose from. The 4th finger
is unrealistic (too short to reach across the fingerboard), so it
has to be the 3
I wholeheartedly agree!
Thomas
Am Sam, 2004-08-28 um 19.09 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> In einer eMail vom 28.08.2004 15:07:43 Westeurop=E4ische Sommerzeit schreibt=
> =20
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> > These comments here touch on a what is for me a very crucial part of what=20
> > I, as a re-e
"Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> > while i take "baroque lute music" to mean anything played during the
> > baroque period on anything from the lute related family,
> You really shouldn't. Imagine: you are on a Bentley list. What response
> would you get on a Ford Pinto question (bot
Dear Herbert,
the name/title of Josquin's mass composition is "Hercules dux Ferarriae", composed for
duke Ercole I. and based on a short melody constructed as to mirror the sound of the
latin title in the solmisation syllables of its notes (at least if I remember well -
maybe there's a Josquin
I got a note back from Clive who has a new web site with some of his music
that can be dowloaded. His email is
"Clive Titmuss & Susan Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Nancy Carlin
LSA Administrator
>But my IE can't find this site!
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTE
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> OK. The mass is for a nobleman named Ercole. Two questions:
The original Messe by Josquin is for Ercole I, Duke of Ferrara. Not just a
nobleman but a sort of absolute sovereign in his small duchy. He employed
for a short time Josquin at his court in 1471.
> 1. Why does the title, in the origi
OK. The mass is for a nbleman named Ercole. Two questions:
1. Why does the title, in the original Spanish, have "Hercules" instead
of "Ercole".
2. Was this an honor based on Ercole's secular achievements? Or had he
distinguished himself in piety or other religious virtues?
> Thanks to all.
>
> From Roman T.:
>> What makes you think it celebrates the hero of Avgian Stables, and not
>> Hercule Poirot?
>
> I did not "think". I assumed, based on my experience, much as we all
> assume that a plate of scrambled eggs will not be prepared from insect
> eggs.
Your experie
Thanks to all.
>From Roman T.:
> What makes you think it celebrates the hero of Avgian Stables, and not
> Hercule Poirot?
I did not "think". I assumed, based on my experience, much as we all
assume that a plate of scrambled eggs will not be prepared from insect
eggs.
Perhaps this vihuela piece is an intabulation of Josquin's mass for his
sometime employer Duke Ercole of Ferrara. As I recall, Josquin set the
Duke's name "Ercole" by treating it as Hercules, and then using the
corresponding solfege syllables (re ut re) to form the tenor.
(My college early group,
> On pg 104 of Damiani's lute method book is a piece headed
> M de Fuenllana. Duo de la missa de Hercules. Josquin. Pleni sunt coeli.
> It is a Vihuela piece.
> We are accumtomed to papgan inroads into Christianity from northern
> Europe, such as Dec 25 as Jesus' birth date, the Christmas tree, S
On pg 104 of Damiani's lute method book is a piece headed
M de Fuenllana. Duo de la missa de Hercules. Josquin. Pleni sunt coeli.
It is a Vihuela piece.
We are accumtomed to papgan inroads into Christianity from northern
Europe, such as Dec 25 as Jesus' birth date, the Christmas tree, Santa
Clive and Susan have closed down the old site.
They are in the process of creating a new site. So far there is only one
section of the new site available. The new address is
http://www.earlymusicstudio.com
It currently only contains downloadable music tracks from their CD's.
you can contact
>> The problem is where history becomes an end in
>> itself
>
> to me it's like a velvet trap.
>
> couple an artist's arrogance with an aggressive application of the hip
> principle to any other art or discipline (...painting... automobile
> manufacturing... "early" standards of hygiene...etc;, e
> it may be a shame that we don't have a chance to meet with one another
We do, quite often, and even put each other up for the night, on occasion.
RT
> while i take "baroque lute music" to mean anything played during the
> baroque period on anything from the lute related family,
You really shouldn't. Imagine: you are on a Bentley list. What response
would you get on a Ford Pinto question (both are cars, really)???
RT
> earlier this year i asked a question about early country music - what
> were untrained, informal instrumentalists of the time playing outside
> the traditional, well documented repertoire of renaissance and baroque
> music in the towns?
Separation of mass-culture from elite-culture is a much late
Sorry, but Rowan Atkinson played Edmund Blackadder in the Elizabethan
series.
When the credits roll at the end to a contra-tenor song, there is a
person, very like Baldrick, prancing around the gardens with a lute.
Rowan A. played other Blackadder roles in other periods. One being a
WWI Captai
I got a strange "bounce" message when I sent this yesterday, so I am
trying again.
Daniel.
===
Craig:
The area of interest to subscribers to this list (fretted plucked
strings) is covered somewhat incompletely on the Chitarrata website.
http://www.chitarrata.com/
Some select
>> Lute [3-string, both long and shortnecked] had been in Europe all along, at
>> least since the Hellenistic period.
>> See
>> http://www.polyhymnion.org/torban/iconography.html
>
> Great display of iconography. May I suggest putting dates on all those so they
> can be viewed in context to one an
Dear Rainer and Ed,
A consort part survives (presumably for flute) for My Lady Hunsdon's
Puffe. I wrote about it last year. Here are extracts from the
relevant e-mails, both on the subject "Puffe".
19th March 2003:
Diana Poulton gives a lot of information about My Lady Hunsdon's
Almande (or Puff
Doesn't work for me either.
Craig
Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Neither is mine, after clearing the cache.
RT
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Roman M. Turovsky
http://polyhymnion.org/swv
> But my IE can't find this site!
>
>
>> www.clivetitmuss.com
>> RT
>> __
>> Roman M. Turovsky
>> htt
Neither is mine, after clearing the cache.
RT
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Roman M. Turovsky
http://polyhymnion.org/swv
> But my IE can't find this site!
>
>
>> www.clivetitmuss.com
>> RT
>> __
>> Roman M. Turovsky
>> http://polyhymnion.org/swv
>>
>>> What is happening with the site of Clive Titm
Roman wrote:
>
> Lute [3-string, both long and shortnecked] had been in Europe all along, at
> least since the Hellenistic period.
> See
> http://www.polyhymnion.org/torban/iconography.html
Great display of iconography. May I suggest putting dates on all those so they can be
viewed in context to
I went back to 9.2, because my monitor is sharper in it, and Ghostview
crashes 10.
RT
__
Roman M. Turovsky
http://polyhymnion.org/swv
>> The most current Mac version for OS9.2 has no files listed in the XML
>> doc.
>> RT
> Wouldn't the most current Mac be OS10.3.4?
>
> I happened to catch a replay of the 1952 film Ivanhoe with Robert Taylor.
> There was a scene at the beginning where Ivanhoe is riding around Europe with
> a lute singing a song that alludes to the captured Richard I in hopes he'll
> get discover where he's being held. I began to wonder if the lu
I happened to catch a replay of the 1952 film Ivanhoe with Robert Taylor. There was a
scene at the beginning where Ivanhoe is riding around Europe with a lute singing a
song that alludes to the captured Richard I in hopes he'll get discover where he's
being held. I began to wonder if the lute ha
Aren't names wonderful, one can be whoever one says one is. And that
particularly in the earlier eras when the name was a part of the location or
occupation. Personnally, being of Scot's origin (despite the Irish name) I
would choose Black John (Ian Dhu), but only because as a kid I always wante
But my IE can't find this site!
- Original Message -
From: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Manolo Laguillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "LUTELIST" <>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 1:54 AM
Subject: Re: Clives Titmuss site
> www.clivetitmuss.com
> RT
> __
> Roman M. Turovs
My IE likes it fine. BTW, Roman, did all that up and downloading get your
MIDI working?
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To: "Alain Veylit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Nancy Carlin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "lute net" <>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 1:00 AM
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