[LUTE] Re: Luthiers (wood)

2006-03-28 Thread Ed Durbrow
A film with Dombois in it? Did he play? Title? Any more info? On Mar 27, 2006, at 11:59 PM, Sandy Hackney wrote: Many years ago I saw a film with Dombois and Sandro Zanetti (a luthier of note in the 70s) and they were examining a door from a 500 year old barn. Subsequently, Zanetti

[LUTE] Re: Meantone temperament

2006-03-28 Thread LGS-Europe
which can be studied at http://www.larips.com ... I like Mr. Lehman's work, however it (or any talk of keyboard temperaments) has little direct relevance to fretted strings. Bradley can tune every Of course, but we have to play together with keyboards, and think of something not to be

[LUTE] Re: Overtly religious ouvre?

2006-03-28 Thread Howard Posner
Edward Martin wrote: But in these psalms, the lute performs these wonderful, polyphonic fugal like pieces, that make wonderful solos in their own right; in them, the voice comes in with simple tones, and the voice is even tacet for up to 8 measures at a time!. This description would

[LUTE] Re: Griffiths and Bermudo

2006-03-28 Thread Vance Wood
Very interesting, too bad the music was not included. Vance Wood. - Original Message - From: Rob MacKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 1:49 AM Subject: [LUTE] Griffiths and Bermudo The English translation of John Griffiths' vihuela tutor

[LUTE] Re: Overtly religious ouvre?

2006-03-28 Thread Ron Andrico
I'll make an unabashed plug here. We recorded three pieces from Vallet's books of psalm settings, plus my arrangement of a psalm by Goudimel, described at the following link: [1]http://mignarda.com/cds Also, I have available as a free pdf download of one of Vallet's wonderful

[LUTE] Re: Overtly religious ouvre?

2006-03-28 Thread lautenist
Yes - right. But I would rather consider the Regias Pietas as solo music because the melody line indicated by the asterix often does not match the melody of the geneve psalter (if I recall right). Hoping not to tell nonsense Thomas Apart from the 2 books of psalms by Vallet (one with solo

[LUTE] Re: Overtly religious ouvre?

2006-03-28 Thread LGS-Europe
Yes - right. But I would rather consider the Regias Pietas as solo music because the melody line indicated by the asterix often does not match the melody of the geneve psalter (if I recall right). I thought they were (it says so in the introduction of the facsimile, anyway). Fitting the

[LUTE] Re: Overtly religious ouvre?

2006-03-28 Thread lautenist
I thought they were (it says so in the introduction of the facsimile, anyway). Fitting the Dathenus psalm texts has never given me any trouble, either. Of course, if you prefer to play them without singing, it's fine, but Vallet has explicitely added the asterixes for sing-along performances.

[LUTE] Re: Overtly religious ouvre?

2006-03-28 Thread Arthur Ness
Daniel reminds me that the Richard Allison Psalmes of David were brought to North America with two lutes on board the Mayflower. There is much religious music for lute, as several readers of this list have already indicated. Some of the earliest cantional settings of psalms and hymns are in the

[LUTE] Re: Playing With Nails

2006-03-28 Thread chriswilke
Everyone, With all due respect to POD, I think if he (or any of our modern lutenists) were zapped back in time with his lute, his playing would illicit some very strange looks: What manner of playing is this? Why dost thou contrive to perform these musicks the identical way each and ev'ry

[LUTE] Re: Meantone temperament

2006-03-28 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:58 AM 3/28/2006, Arto Wikla wrote: And perhaps the same ear of the period was less tolerant to every tonality sounding the same and no tonality sounding pure, all the major thirds sounding ugly... ;-) Obviously...but you still can't truly fret any instrument to any temperament scheme

[LUTE] Re: Meantone temperament

2006-03-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
And perhaps the same ear of the period was less tolerant to every tonality sounding the same and no tonality sounding pure, all the major thirds sounding ugly... ;-) All the best, Arto On lutes all keys sound different even in ET. And some people find meantone 3rds way too shrill. RT

[LUTE] Re: Paul O'Dette in time machine

2006-03-28 Thread Paul Pleijsier
Re: warts, these thuddy basses are part of the convincing sound. They blend nicely with the treble. They sound like basses that know their place. PP - Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul Pleijsier [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday,

[LUTE] Re: Paul O'Dette in time machine

2006-03-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
But a well-tuned axe should be. RT That's it, it is still on. I guess I'll never learn to distingiush between pieces, but the sound is special. Wait, I'll look up wart. Ah, a wrat in Dutch. Yes, I find that total technical perfection is not neccessarily an ingredient in a great performance.

[LUTE] Re: Paul O'Dette in time machine

2006-03-28 Thread chriswilke
Paul, I'm afraid I do and don't agree... Yes, I agree with you whole-heartedly that absolute technical precision is not a needed part of a great performance especially as it applies to minor things like clicks and buzzes or even the odd out of tune or wrong note. In this case the

[LUTE] Re: Paul O'Dette in time machine

2006-03-28 Thread David Rastall
On Mar 28, 2006, at 11:36 AM, Paul Pleijsier wrote: I guess the early people wouldn't care much if POD played with strange inflexible strings or with or without nails. I guess these things are only interesting to US, especially to those who care about approaching the sound of the past.

[LUTE] Re: Paul O'Dette in time machine

2006-03-28 Thread Stephan . Olbertz
Am 28 Mar 2006 um 19:09 hat Paul Pleijsier geschrieben: That's it, it is still on. I guess I'll never learn to distingiush between pieces, but the sound is special. Wait, I'll look up wart. Ah, a wrat in Dutch. Yes, I find that total technical perfection is not neccessarily an ingredient in a

[LUTE] Re: Paul O'Dette in time machine

2006-03-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
NO. Because the lute on the Weichenberger CD is massively out of tune, I suspect from untrue strings. But TS should have known better not to record under such conditions. RT Less tuning than necessary. RT RT, a genuine question: do you say this because you are an advocate of ET? PP

[LUTE] Re: Overtly religious ouvre?

2006-03-28 Thread Leonard Williams
I'm not sure who started this thread, but I have a nice setting of the Lord's Prayer by Richard Allison in tab format, or I could attach a pdf if you'd like it. Leonard Williams On 3/28/06 2:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! There is pretty much sacred music for

[LUTE] Re: Meantone temperament

2006-03-28 Thread The Other
On Tuesday 28 March 2006 10:09 am, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: At 10:58 AM 3/28/2006, Arto Wikla wrote: And perhaps the same ear of the period was less tolerant to every tonality sounding the same and no tonality sounding pure, all the major thirds sounding ugly... ;-) Obviously...but you

[LUTE] Re: Griffiths and Bermudo

2006-03-28 Thread Rob MacKillop
The links for ordering are on this page of my website: http://www.musicintime.co.uk/taner.htm It is an incredibly inexpensive book, well worth the effort of tracking down. Lots of scores, tabs and transcriptions. And DR Griffiths has given us for free his own English translation. Deserving of