[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A query from Bob Barto

2007-01-06 Thread Mathias Rösel
Thomas Mace's instruction never mentions the ring finger. It doesn't exist. Never notated in his music, ever. I've almost quit using it too, except for really wide stretches i.e. a chord or arpeggio requiring the first, sixth, and thirteenth courses. (Pfeiffer's Concerto, Allegro) Most

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A query from Bob Barto

2007-01-06 Thread Mathias Rösel
With this issue, I'd avoid alternatives of right or wrong (as though is was wrong to play La Belle Homicide, occasionally using RH ringfinger - it's comfortable at some places). Far more interesting IMHO is that there is a striking contrast between LeSage and Kniebandl, viewed as representatives

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A query from Bob Barto

2007-01-06 Thread sterling price
Has anyone done research into the bridge string spacing on extant lutes and how that relates to using the ring finger? For instance the Edlinger lute 'Vienna AR969' has a bridge spacing that is 156mm which is quite large. I first learned baroque lute on a close copy of this instrument with the

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A query from Bob Barto

2007-01-06 Thread Roman Turovsky
I would deflect anyone from wasting too much time into spacing research. Any spacing under 156mm has been empirically proven to be untenable. The lutes that survive with smaller spacing where probably made to be for the Damen, and didn't (or couldn't) get played much. RT Has anyone done

[LUTE] Re: looking for Albert de Rippe CD with Fantasies

2007-01-06 Thread Werner Bogula
Thank you everybody! I looked at the picture of the CD at alice-musik web site. That is the CD, I was looking for. Now I only have to find a shop to buy it... Great work we Am 05.01.2007 um 23:51 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all! the CD you want is probably recorded by Peter

[LUTE] Re: looking for Albert de Rippe CD with Fantasies

2007-01-06 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
I looked around the Alice Musik site a bit. If you enter their frames page from the home page http://www.alice-musik.se/ and click Shop, you appear to be able to buy directly from the label. Eugene - Original Message - From: Werner Bogula [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, January 6,

[LUTE] Why is there no spanish lute music?

2007-01-06 Thread Werner Bogula
Hi experts, over the holiday season I read some books about the history of Spain and the musical culture of the Renaissance. What really strikes me: Why isn't there any lute music from the Spanish Renaissance? Spanish Musicians (like Mudarra) traveled to Italy, the music of Josquin has

[LUTE] Re: Why is there no spanish lute music?

2007-01-06 Thread Craig Robert Pierpont
What a great question! Having nothing to contribute, I eagerly await a response from some more knowledgeable than I. Craig Werner Bogula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi experts, over the holiday season I read some books about the history of Spain and the musical culture of the

[LUTE] Re: Why is there no spanish lute music?

2007-01-06 Thread Roman Turovsky
This has been discussed here before, and the list's archives have to have it. The lute was neither absent from Spain nor was it seen as non grata, in view of the large number of literary and iconographic citations. RT - Original Message - From: Werner Bogula [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute

[LUTE] Re: Why is there no spanish lute music?

2007-01-06 Thread Edward Martin
Dear Werner, That is a very good question. One thing to keep in mind is that very first lute book (or any music at all) to be printed was in 1507 or so, by the Petrucci press. Everything prior to that was by manuscript only. The Spanish DID play the lute. There are old accounts from