[LUTE-BUILDER] black mastic rosette inlay

2007-03-16 Thread Clive Titmuss & Susan Adams
I haven't received any messages for ages on this list, but I have a feeling some of you are lurking out there, so here goes. I have several reference books dealing with historic guitars which refer to the setting of MOP and ivory shapes around rosettes "set in black mastic". A little research

[LUTE] Re: [Viols] question about the viola da gamba

2007-03-16 Thread Howard Posner
On Friday, Mar 16, 2007, at 10:35 America/Los_Angeles, Arthur Ness wrote: > And do bows get larger as the instrument for which they > are intended get larger? Why not? At least with modern orchestral bows, for each larger instrument the diameter of the stick increases but its length decreases

[LUTE] Re: Are lutes too fragile to improve with age?

2007-03-16 Thread David Rastall
On Mar 16, 2007, at 5:56 PM, Herbert Ward wrote: > I've heard that lutes, due to the thinness of the wood > in their soundboard, do not improve with age like > violins, and that, in fact, an old lute will have an > OK bass and treble, but be weak in the middle courses. I'm sure that depends on a

[LUTE] Re: Are lutes too fragile to improve with age?

2007-03-16 Thread Ed Durbrow
On Mar 17, 2007, at 6:56 AM, Herbert Ward wrote: > I've heard that lutes, due to the thinness of the wood > in their soundboard, do not improve with age like > violins, and that, in fact, an old lute will have an > OK bass and treble, but be weak in the middle courses. After hearing Jacob Lindberg

[LUTE] Rép : [LUTE] Are lutes too fragile to improve w ith age?

2007-03-16 Thread Anthony Hind
I had heard similar remarks; but I was told that the contrast was between flat soundboards and curved ones (rather than thin ones). However, when, in London at the UK lute meeting, I heard Lindberg's ancient Rauwolf that has a soundboard dating from the 17th century or so, it seemed this mig

[LUTE] Are lutes too fragile to improve with age?

2007-03-16 Thread Herbert Ward
I've heard that lutes, due to the thinness of the wood in their soundboard, do not improve with age like violins, and that, in fact, an old lute will have an OK bass and treble, but be weak in the middle courses. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wb

[LUTE] Re: something totally different

2007-03-16 Thread Narada
Ed/All Not wishing to invoke a discussion on placing the lute thru' modern electronic wizardry, as I may be accused of heresy by the traditionalists :-) I've got my 8 course tuned so that each string in the course is tuned an octave apart rather than unison, with my PH3 I have rate set at half, de

[LUTE] Re: [Viols] question about the viola da gamba

2007-03-16 Thread Guy Smith
That's correct. You use a French bow in much the same way as a cellist. You hold the German bow underhanded, a bit like a Viol player (although you hold the frog, not the hair). I always preferred the German bow, but at the time at least, my preference was not widely shared. Most bassists used Fren

[LUTE] Re: [Viols] question about the viola da gamba

2007-03-16 Thread Arthur Ness
Yes, there are bass violins. I played in an orchestra once in which the first bassist had a bass violin, with the 90 degree shoulders. The player had to stand on a box to play it. Aren't the different types of modern bass bows called French and German, the French being held like a violin bow, but

[LUTE] Re: something totally different

2007-03-16 Thread Ed Durbrow
Because of the nature of two strings tuned to unison, the lute has a kind of built in phase/pitch shifting. On Mar 15, 2007, at 8:01 PM, Narada wrote: > Thought I'd give this idea a whirl so, put a clip mic on my lute > headstock and ran it thru my FX rig. Sounds good with a phase shifter,

[LUTE] Re: [Viols] "cello"

2007-03-16 Thread Howard Posner
> From: "Alice Renken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> The root word here is "viola". The diminutive > ending is "ino", giving "violino", "little viola". Meaning small viol, of course. > "ello" is an aggrandizing ending, so "violoncello" is "big viola". This is a bit backward. "Ello" is a diminutive, an

[LUTE] [Viols] question about the viola da gamba

2007-03-16 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Howard, The double bass I used to play many years ago had a violin-type body. At least, the back was flat (not carved), but the shoulders didn't slope - they came into the neck at 90 degrees. The tailpiece was originally made for a three-string instrument, and later adapted to accommodate fou

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: saint luc edition

2007-03-16 Thread Roman Turovsky
Probably the most superficial and tedious part of the entire lute repertoire. RT From: "Taco Walstra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BAROQUE-LUTE-LIST" Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 10:47 AM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] saint luc edition >I just got a paper with new publications from the music shop saul g

[BAROQUE-LUTE] saint luc edition

2007-03-16 Thread Taco Walstra
I just got a paper with new publications from the music shop saul groen in amsterdam. They list a new book with collected lute works by Saint Luc, 330 pieces, 300 pages. Anybody familiar with the edition? Taco To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/

[LUTE] 13 course Baroque Lute by Martin De Witte, 1999 FOR SALE

2007-03-16 Thread Anton Birula
13 course Baroque Lute by Martin De Witte, 1999 Vlissingen. Holland. Maple Back. String Length 69/74cm. Price 4700 EUR This is a very well set up baroque lute in perfect condition. We used it for our projects and recordings. Very optimal action, fingerboard profile is really nice. Checked it with

[LUTE] 13 course Baroque Lute by Martin De Witte, 1999 FOR SALE

2007-03-16 Thread Anton Birula
13 course Baroque Lute by Martin De Witte, 1999 Vlissingen. Holland. Maple Back. String Length 69/74cm. Price 4700 EUR This is a very well set up baroque lute in perfect condition. We used it for our projects and recordings. Very optimal action, fingerboard profile is really nice. Checked it with

[LUTE] Re: [Viols] question about the viola da gamba

2007-03-16 Thread MWWilson
That is correct, Bottesini was known to play a three string bass. If memory serves, he often tuned his instrument in 5ths rather than 4ths which would have required a lot of shifting between positions especially for his solo works. Many of the older double basses in use today were originally t

[LUTE] Re: [Viols] "cello"

2007-03-16 Thread bill kilpatrick
there's also the vihuela de penola - played with plectrum - but a rose by any other name is ... thorny. --- gary digman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is not the Italian term "viola" the equivalent of > the Spanish "vihuela' and > the Portugese "violao"? And, as I understand it, > these terms were

[LUTE] Re: [Viols] "cello"

2007-03-16 Thread gary digman
Is not the Italian term "viola" the equivalent of the Spanish "vihuela' and the Portugese "violao"? And, as I understand it, these terms were origially applied to any stringed instrument. Hence, in Spain a plucked instrument was a "vihuela de mano" and a bowed instrument was a "vihuela de arco". Th

[LUTE] Re: [Viols] question about the viola da gamba

2007-03-16 Thread gary digman
Well, yes, I guess. I am a bassist as well as a lutenist ( lutist, luter, etc ) and viol player ( gambist, violist, etc.) and guitarist ( yes, I see no conflict in playing both lute and guitar ) and occasional banjoist ( banjist? ). My understanding was that the double bass was indeed descended