[LUTE] Re: home recordings

2007-06-15 Thread Ed Durbrow
On Jun 14, 2007, at 6:06 PM, Anthony Hind wrote: > Any internal mike will > pick up noise from the component, and of course there is no way of > placing the mikes in relation to the player. I thought David was using one of the new recorders that records directly to memory cards. I have an Edi

[LUTE] Re: home recordings

2007-06-15 Thread Anthony Hind
Ed Surely there must be some preamplification. I was thinking of electronic noise (or grain), not motor noise. If there is no such preamplification, you could be right. Regards Anthony Le 15 juin 07 à 13:01, Ed Durbrow a écrit : > > On Jun 14, 2007, at 6:06 PM, Anthony Hind wrote: > >>

[LUTE] Re: Wickhambrook facsimile avalable?

2007-06-15 Thread Edward Martin
They do a good business, as I have ordered from them in the past. ed At 01:24 PM 6/15/2007 +0200, G. Crona wrote: >Many rare books here! > >http://www.lacg.net/books_early_music_.htm > >G. > > > >To get on or off this list see list information at >http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index

[LUTE] Re: Another Eggman Film

2007-06-15 Thread David Rastall
It should henceforth be known as the "Chimneypot Cantata." On Jun 14, 2007, at 11:52 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: > And this is quite interesting too, by a Russian aacquaintance of mine: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OPA8vdZSK8 > RT > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "David Rastall"

[LUTE] Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-15 Thread Narada
Greetings, Well I'm now utterly confused with regards to chords on the lute. Can someone recommend where I can get hold of a definitive book of chord shapes for 6 course lute or possibly 8 course or a decent link. The confusion has arisen out of looking at a website that gives full barre chords,

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-15 Thread Craig Allen
Narad wrote: > >Well I'm now utterly confused with regards to chords on the lute. Can >someone recommend where I can get hold of a definitive book of chord >shapes for 6 course lute or possibly 8 course or a decent link. The >confusion has arisen out of looking at a website that gives full barre >c

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-15 Thread Anthony Hind
Neil It is interesting that lute manuals do not usually give chord shapes, whereas this is often basic to guitar text-books. I think this may be because, it is felt that although Renaissance lute players may have used what we would recognize as chords, perhaps if they came from a poly

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-15 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:31 AM 6/15/2007, Narada wrote: >Greetings, > >Well I'm now utterly confused with regards to chords on the lute. Can >someone recommend where I can get hold of a definitive book of chord >shapes for 6 course lute or possibly 8 course or a decent link. The >confusion has arisen out of looking a

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-15 Thread LGS-Europe
Chords on lutes are often approached from the viewpoint of playing basso continuo, so a good place to look is in books teaching just that. For example Nigel North's Continuo Playing on the Lute ... (Faber) or the tutor published by the French Lute Society. Both give some chord charts before goi

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-15 Thread hera caius
--0-1803022619-1181921794=:59745 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My personal opinion... You have to learn all the notes on the fingerboard before even trying to write something for lute, and this depends on the tuning of your lute. I personally lear

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-15 Thread Narada
David, The first para of your answer is useful. The second para I feel is uncalled for. I am fully aware of how to tune a 'guitar' to lute tuning, thank you. I'm forming the opinion that there are certain 'members' on this list who have adopted a rather arrogant and elitist attitude towards guit

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-15 Thread David Rastall
On Jun 15, 2007, at 11:28 AM, LGS-Europe wrote: > Chords on lutes are often approached from the viewpoint of playing > basso > continuo, so a good place to look is in books teaching just that. For > example Nigel North's Continuo Playing on the Lute ... (Faber) or > the tutor > published by th

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-15 Thread LGS-Europe
> The second para I feel is uncalled for. I am fully aware of how to tune > a 'guitar' to lute tuning, thank you. I'm forming the opinion that there > are certain 'members' on this list who have adopted a rather arrogant > and elitist attitude towards guitarists for whom the lute is a second > ins

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-15 Thread David Rastall
On Jun 15, 2007, at 12:13 PM, Narada wrote: > I have over the months received a great deal of help from people here > which I greatly appreciate, but to be truthful flippant comments > such as > your second paragraph and some of the sarcasm I've been subjected to > makes me wonder whether this i

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-15 Thread Anthony Hind
Thank you Stewart I must admit I hadn't read Besard, but the texts I had read did not include chord patterns, and when I looked at Renaissance manuals such as Damiani's that seemd quite detailed, but did not talk about chords, I thought perhaps that the polyphonic origin of much Ren

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-15 Thread Guy Smith
You are basically correct for things like intabulations of vocal polyphony or a lot of the ricercar literature, which is written much like vocal polyphony. However, there are a lot of pieces based on standard ground bass patterns (bergamasca, passo mezzo, romanesca, la Folia, Conde Claros...) which

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-15 Thread Howard Posner
On Friday, Jun 15, 2007, at 09:13 America/Los_Angeles, Narada wrote: > I'm forming the opinion that there > are certain 'members' on this list who have adopted a rather arrogant > and elitist attitude towards guitarists for whom the lute is a second > instrument. Obviously, you formed such an op

[LUTE] Re: Wickhambrook facsimile avalable?

2007-06-15 Thread Stephen Kenyon
This reminds me...does anybody have or know of for sale a copy of the Ness da Milano edition (eg secondhand, not the on-demand reprints that are available)? Stephen G. Crona wrote: >Many rare books here! > >http://www.lacg.net/books_early_music_.htm > To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-15 Thread Anthony Hind
Yes, I do realise that some types are directly are written very much like vocal polyphony, and that these can only by fleeting chance develop into chordal patterns. For the music types you mention, these obviously can be described in terms of chordal shapes, but does it necessarily follow t

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-15 Thread Guy Smith
As I understand it, they thought in terms of the bass line, but chords are typically implied by that line, much like they are with continuo bass. Hopefully, someone with a much better understanding of music theory of that period can explain it in more detail. -Original Message- From: Antho

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-15 Thread chriswilke
Whoa, let's all cool it for a moment... I don't know that anyone was trying to be snobby here, but I suppose I can see where the disconnect was. A lot of the Europeans on the list assume a certain level of basic general music theory knowledge. They are in the right to do so. Sadly, however

[LUTE] Juan Carlos Rivera

2007-06-15 Thread Edward Martin
Dear fellow netters, I would very much like to contact, by e-mail, Mr. Rivera. I recently purchased his CD of Valderrabano, and I would very much like to contact him. On his web site, he has a contact e-mail address of : [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I wrote to this address twice, and it bounced

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-15 Thread David Rastall
On Jun 15, 2007, at 3:37 PM, Howard Posner wrote: > ...please don't tell us you're "utterly confused" and > ask very basic questions, then tell us how offended you are when you > get basic answers that don't acknowledge your advanced state of > knowledge. Unless you're more interested in impressi

[LUTE] Re: home recordings

2007-06-15 Thread Ed Durbrow
On Jun 15, 2007, at 10:10 PM, Anthony Hind wrote: > Surely there must be some preamplification. I was thinking of > electronic noise (or grain), not motor noise. Oh, I see. I thought you meant mechanical noise. I assume every electronic device has a certain amount of self noise. Ed Durbrow Sai