[LUTE] to end all Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-16 Thread LGS-Europe
Dear Neil and others Please find at my website (www.davidvanooijen.nl) left hand menu Sheet music bottom of the page, a chord chart with two alternative sheapes for all major and minor chords on a renaissance lute tuned in g'. Should explain itself. David - haste job, so corrections are

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-16 Thread gary digman
Having played and taught guitar for most of my life, I've run into this attitude toward the study of theory quite often. I think some guitarists have the feeling that a knowledge of theory is going to interfere with their ability to play. Their concept of playing guitar is to just close one's eyes

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-16 Thread Denys Stephens
Dear Neil, I find this question very interesting, because it uncovers some of the expectations created by the modern guitar tradition. We have agreed names for guitar chords because of the fixed pitch of the instrument.Admittedly there are three or four positions for the same chord on a guitar

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-16 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 16 juin 07 à 02:25, David Rastall a écrit : On Jun 15, 2007, at 3:37 PM, Howard Posner wrote: ...please don't tell us you're utterly confused and ask very basic questions, then tell us how offended you are when you get basic answers that don't acknowledge your advanced state of

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-16 Thread Narada
I didn't class the second paragraph of David's e-mail as a basic answer. Thus my response. I have no need to impress anyone on here nor do I see myself as a sage. Obviously I've touched a nerve with you. -Original Message- From: Howard Posner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 June 2007

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-16 Thread David Rastall
On Jun 16, 2007, at 5:46 AM, Denys Stephens wrote: So if one really wants named chords on the lute one has to apply modern guitar-like thinking and assume a fixed pitch. That might be helpful in some respects, but all the names will be wrong when you pick up a different sized lute. So

[LUTE] Re: Tab Search - Kircher Tarantella

2007-06-16 Thread Arthur Ness
Thanks to my favorite music reference librarian, I can tell you that Kircher published not one but eight songs used to cure tarantism (antidotum tarantulae). It's in this work: Kircher, Athanasius, 1602-1680. _Magnes, siue, De arte magnetica : opus tripartitum :_ (Romae : Ex

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-16 Thread chriswilke
Denys and all, I've thought about this a bit and don't find it so strange that the lute typically doesn't have stock block chord shapes. How many contemporary, modern, 21st-century, just published, classical guitar methods include a chord chart? I don't know of many now nor in the

[LUTE] To end all Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-16 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear David, Not half as difficult as Dutch typed fast, or Japanese for that matter. In answering Neil's initial question by supplying a list of chords for the lute, one can see why there must be better ways of approaching the lute other than solely through chord shapes. I particularly liked the

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-16 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Denys Thanks for these explanations that really do help to clarify my rather vague intuitions about the linear (polyphonic) as opposed to vertical approach to music. We may be much more sensitive to the vertical aspects of the music than the Renaissance lute person might have

[LUTE] Re: To end all Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-16 Thread Charles Browne
I wonder which politician you would name that after? Charles -Original Message- From: Stewart McCoy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 June 2007 16:52 To: Lute Net Subject: [LUTE] To end all Lute Chord Confusion Dear David, Not half as difficult as Dutch typed fast, or Japanese for

[LUTE] Re: To end all Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-16 Thread Mathias Rösel
May I drop a stone into the water by saying that compared to closely related guitars and renaissance lutes, things get freaky with the baroque lute tuned in the ton de la chevre, i. e. three sharps, with the 1st and 4th courses being enharmonic. Possible and practically used chord shapes of this

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-16 Thread Howard Posner
On Saturday, Jun 16, 2007, at 04:41 America/Los_Angeles, Narada wrote: I didn't class the second paragraph of David's e-mail as a basic answer. Clearly not. That was the problem. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html