[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2007-11-12 Thread howard posner
Bruno Correia wrote: > Is this a baroque lute? It is, but probably not what you mean by "baroque lute." It's probably best described as a liuto attiorbato. It's configured as a single-strung archlute in A. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF4GKIILF_U > > Seems to be single strung through o

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2007-11-12 Thread David Tayler
I think we are looking at a short scale single strung archlute tone transposing. Ed astutely pegs the tuning. You could call it attiorbato I supposethough that word may just mean theorbo. Having played this piece quite often, that is the easiest solution (down a step), though I prefer the m

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2007-11-12 Thread howard posner
On Nov 12, 2007, at 6:15 PM, Bruno Correia wrote: > The neck looks a bit short Not for a liuto attiorbato. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2007-11-12 Thread Edward Martin
No, it is a single-strung archlute. Interestingly enough, the ensemble (and the archlutenist) are playing in a = 440, instead of 415. As well, if you notice his tuning, he is playing as though it were in the key of C major, instead of D major! Therefore, he is tuned with the top string in a

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2007-11-12 Thread Bruno Correia
Well, that a possibility! The neck looks a bit short, did you noticed that? A liuto forte maybe? > > DR > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > --

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2007-11-12 Thread David Rastall
On Nov 12, 2007, at 8:30 PM, Bruno Correia wrote: > Is this a baroque lute? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF4GKIILF_U > > Seems to be single strung through out... A liuto forte maybe? DR [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~

[LUTE] Vivaldi

2007-11-12 Thread Bruno Correia
Is this a baroque lute? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF4GKIILF_U Seems to be single strung through out... -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] was Double Meantone now meantone

2007-11-12 Thread David Tayler
I'm shifting the topic cause has nothing to do with my double meantone system with its superlow thirds (the thirds are too low to print, but if you add them to your cart they will show up in cents) now fetchingly called *drumroll* tiorba cromatica *end drumroll* Back to our show. Galile

[LUTE] Re: Double Meantone ...

2007-11-12 Thread Roman Turovsky
Unless he meant it ironically/sarcastically. Take David vO. He is a "universally known, skillful man" Leaving his skills out of it, he certainly isn't universally known. Not like David Beckham or Osama bin Laden or Paris Hilton. Or Sting. Or Paul O'Dette. He is certainly known lutelistwide, with

[LUTE] Re: Double Meantone ...

2007-11-12 Thread howard posner
On Nov 12, 2007, at 12:04 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: > Unless he meant it ironically/sarcastically. Take David vO. He is a > "universally known, skillful man" Leaving his skills out of it, he certainly isn't universally known. Not like David Beckham or Osama bin Laden or Paris Hilton. Or Stin

[LUTE] Re: is it true?

2007-11-12 Thread David Rastall
On Nov 12, 2007, at 12:52 PM, Daniel Winheld wrote: > "The music will sound much more lute-like at that pitch." This > statement is misleading. Why would a Terz guitar (guitars scaled to > "G", built in the early 19th century and also sometimes seen in > Mariachi bands) or a capoed E instrument so

[LUTE] Re: Double Meantone ...

2007-11-12 Thread Roman Turovsky
a.. Eumatius [the student]: ... Also, how does it happen that you do not use frets that are spaced by unusual inequality of intervals, and some other little frets that take away the sharpness from the major third and tenth, as I have seen used by some universally known, skilful men, from whom I un

[LUTE] Re: Double Meantone ...

2007-11-12 Thread howard posner
On Nov 12, 2007, at 11:28 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: > a.. Eumatius [the student]: ... Also, how does it happen that you > do not use frets that are spaced by unusual inequality of > intervals, and some other little frets that take away the sharpness > from the major third and tenth, as I hav

[LUTE] Re: Double Meantone ............

2007-11-12 Thread Roman Turovsky
Via Arto: a.. Eumatius [the student]: ... Also, how does it happen that you do not use frets that are spaced by unusual inequality of intervals, and some other little frets that take away the sharpness from the major third and tenth, as I have seen used by some universally known, skilful men,

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Johann Mattheson (1681-1764)

2007-11-12 Thread H.L. Pakker
Yes Markus, you are right!: http://koelnklavier.de/quellen/matth-orch1/_titel.html Vielen Dank, Henk Pakker PS Do you know of Lutz Kirchoff is still performing? The last time I saw him (2001/2) was at Steffan Millbradts lauten wirkstaette in Meissen (who build my Tielke lute)... - Orig

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Johann Mattheson (1681-1764)

2007-11-12 Thread Markus Lutz
Hello Henk, as far as I know Michel Cardin uses the "Tonartencharakteristik" from Johann Mattheson: Das Neu-eröffnete Orchester. Hamburg 1713. Best regards Markus H.L. Pakker schrieb: Hi there, I'am looking for the/a title and/or book of Johann Mattheson (1681-1764). In his document "The Lo

[LUTE] Re: is it true?

2007-11-12 Thread Guy Smith
The only really compelling reason to put a capo on is if you are playing something like a lute song or consort part, where you have to have the instrument at a specific pitch to make the tab match the parts that are written in staff notation (although singers typically don't mind if the pitch is a

[LUTE] Re: is it true?

2007-11-12 Thread Daniel Winheld
I don't mean to be unduly negative here, but that remark hit an old sore spot- I started out on a classical guitar back in the 1960's and people used to tell me- "Put a capo on your guitar- NOW you have a lute!" Sorry, but I sure as hell did not. And then it took years just to get a bad lute,

[LUTE] Re: is it true?

2007-11-12 Thread Daniel Winheld
"The music will sound much more lute-like at that pitch." This statement is misleading. Why would a Terz guitar (guitars scaled to "G", built in the early 19th century and also sometimes seen in Mariachi bands) or a capoed E instrument sound more "lute-" like than my old E bass lute? Even a "G"

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Double Meantone ............

2007-11-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
This was meant for the LUTE site, not the LUTE BUILDER site - I've now forwarded it accordingly. MH Martyn Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:27:56 + (GMT) To: LGS-Europe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lute builder Net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Martyn Hodgson <[EMAIL P

[LUTE] Re: Double Meantone ............

2007-11-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Martyn Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:27:56 + (GMT) From: Martyn Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Double Meantone To: LGS-Europe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lute builder Net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm afraid you don't appear to

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Double Meantone ............

2007-11-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I'm afraid you don't appear to grasp the essentials (as the opening sentence and indeed paragraph of your reply [below] also demonstrates): in short, (and yet again) because the open strings of the 'renaissance' lute are tuned to different notes (except of course the double octave betw

[LUTE] Re: Is it true?

2007-11-12 Thread Charles Browne
A lot of lute music is written for 6c lutes so after tuning down the 3rd guitar string to F# you have the same relative tuning as a 'g' lute albeit lower by a third. There is a very large corpus of 6c lute music. If you want to play later lute music on a 6 stringed instrument there are problems of

[LUTE] Re: Is it true?

2007-11-12 Thread Joshua E. Horn
Is a lot of the archived lute tabs on the LSA page Renaissance? -- Joshua E. Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] bakfark "ultimi mei sospiri"

2007-11-12 Thread wolfgang wiehe
hi all, i am looking for a facsimile of bakfarks "ultimi mei sospiri". thanks for help wolfgang w. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Double Meantone ............

2007-11-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
The point about modulation is that since you acknowlege your frets (including 'tastini') are necessarily straight, then the change of some notes from diatonic to chromatic intervals, consequent on the modulation, requires such a change since the modulation will very rarely (if ever in pr

[LUTE] Re: Double Meantone

2007-11-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Martyn Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:21:50 + (GMT) From: Martyn Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Double Meantone To: LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] So when you modulate I suppose you must stop and move your frets. What is your