[LUTE] Re: Finery Filth...

2008-01-05 Thread wolfgang wiehe
Is this thread really lute related? If not: stop it W -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Christopher Stetson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Januar 2008 23:23 An: Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Finery Filth... And a fine tradition it is! Great emoticon,

[LUTE] Re: Finery Filth...

2008-01-05 Thread Stuart LeBlanc
har har... You're a riot Wolfie -Original Message- From: wolfgang wiehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 5:57 AM To: 'Christopher Stetson'; Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Finery Filth... Is this thread really lute related? If not: stop it W

[LUTE] Re: RH on the bridge?

2008-01-05 Thread Ed Durbrow
Playing the devil's advocate here, I've always found it hard to believe the best lute player in the world (some must have thought so), Dowland, would change his technique suddenly. Maybe the sources got it wrong or were purposefully misleading? What would be his motivation to change? Just

[LUTE] Re: RH on the bridge?

2008-01-05 Thread vance wood
From what I understand Dowland from early in hi career was criticized for his poor counterpoint, his use of old style composition and old way of playing. He spent his entire adult life trying to get employment in Elizabeth I's court and so on. If he did indeed change he probably did so

[LUTE] Re: RH on the bridge?

2008-01-05 Thread vance wood
Here is another thought: Maybe Dowland created the change in technique? If not him who and from where? Do we know the answer to that question? - Original Message - From: Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LuteNet list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:52 AM

[LUTE] Re: RH on the bridge?

2008-01-05 Thread Ron Andrico
Dear Ed and all: I have to contribute my two cents worth of opinion here. I am firm in the belief that no one from the 16th through 18th centuries really cared a whit about proper right-hand technique, other than doing what is necessary to produce a pleasing tone. The question of 'what is

[LUTE] Re: RH on the bridge?

2008-01-05 Thread Edward Martin
Well stated, Ron. ed At 05:17 PM 1/5/2008 +, Ron Andrico wrote: Dear Ed and all: I have to contribute my two cents worth of opinion here. I am firm in the belief that no one from the 16th through 18th centuries really cared a whit about proper right-hand technique, other than doing what

[LUTE] Re: [delian] Re: as dark as it gets

2008-01-05 Thread Andrew Gibbs
Thanks - what I meant to ask was what it means in musical practice. Donnington doesn't mention it, but by googling around I think it means creating a duet by adding a second part to a pre-existing solo piece without altering the pre-existing solo piece. So yes an exchange as the second

[LUTE] Re: RH on the bridge?

2008-01-05 Thread vance wood
I know that this must be a bit off topic but beside the issue of accessing the additional bases as a criteria for thumb out one has to ask why was thumb in used in the first place, especially when you consider how the thumb and second finger sometimes interfere with each other? I will answer

[LUTE] Re: RH on the bridge?

2008-01-05 Thread demery
On Sat, Jan 5, 2008, vance wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I know that this must be a bit off topic but beside the issue of accessing the additional bases as a criteria for thumb out one has to ask why was thumb in used in the first place, especially when you consider how the thumb and second

[LUTE] Re: RH on the bridge?

2008-01-05 Thread vance wood
From what I have been reading over the years about this issue I am not so sure the use of the plectrum as the reason for the thumb under is anything more than supposition, especially when one considers how the fingers of the right hand strike the strings more efficiently from that wrist

[LUTE] Re: RH on the bridge?

2008-01-05 Thread chriswilke
Ron, --- Ron Andrico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe we should be asking ourselves, 'How can we get more young people interested in playing the lute?' Hear, hear! Right hand technique is very important, of course, but it is possible to get so hung up on minor things that one can easily

[LUTE] Re: RH on the bridge?

2008-01-05 Thread Ron Andrico
Chris all: I was bestirred from my usual one per day visit to the lute list by an artfully directed message to my other address. Thank you Chris and Ed for your supportive comments. I agree that the 'occult lock'd up secrets' of lute playing make for interesting discussion among those who