Would you kindly tell me the precise evidence you have for suggesting such
small instruments (ie 77-82cm)? The overwhelming historical evidence
(iconography, extant instruments, written descriptions) is that theorboes with
both the first and second course lowered the octave had string lengths
Talking of stringing, where does the idea come from of having the octave
string on guitars uppermost (i.e. towards the ceiling). It seems common
practice.
Nigel
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At 04:19 PM 1/26/2008, Bernd Haegemann wrote:
from the French list, a Spanish guitarist...
et pour faire bonne mesure le même avec Weiss
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=oAbo3j6odSM
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=oAbo3j6odSM
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=jshjVHocIvI
My homage to Claire Antonini's transcription of a sarabande by de
Chambonnieres.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoZcVSQHQoA
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You'll find the earlier (longish) discussion on Pittoni in the archives. By
inventing such a thing as octaves on the second course, you're in danger of
imposing your views on the music to make it fit your pre-conceptions.
MH
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Martyn,
Yes, I know many have
Martyn,
Yes, I know many have used the term toy
theorbo. That doesn't mean it isn't inappropriate or
short-sighted.
Much impressive scholarly work has been done by
Lynda and others. Unfortunately, for the question of
stringing and pitch, so much of what we have to go on
is
At 04:44 PM 1/26/2008, Gernot Hilger wrote:
The music can be found in Werner Icking's archive which is normally
quite reliable and a great source.
http://icking-music-archive.org/scores/bach/cello_suites/vc100712.pdf
Some yes, some maybe less so. I think many typesetters are represented and
You are one to talk. Do you honestly think Straube wore jeans when he
performed???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Eal16Wa3A
DS
On Jan 28, 2008, at 8:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We may
eventually be able to uncover the truth, but we may
also never know. The situation is confusing
Even better, interested parties may wish to dip their noses into Lynda's
thesis, which really does the background work for the articles mentioned.
It is by leaps and bounds the only comprehensive scholarship on the subject
to date.
It is available through the British Thesis Service.
My two
Martyn,
--- Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Clearly, with modern overwound strings, 'toy'
theorboes are possible but that is insufficient
reason for suggesting them as the first choice
MH
Is it really necessary to use such condescending
language? The iconographical
One of the reasons surely is the use of campanelas.
Timo
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Lähettäjä: Nigel Solomon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lähetetty: 28. tammikuuta 2008 10:43
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Aihe: [LUTE] guitar stringing
Talking of stringing, where does the idea come from of having the
I'm sorry to say it but all that you write on this is mere personal
preference with scant regard for the historical facts. ALL the evidence on
theorboes with first two courses an octave down is for instruments larger than
the biggest you recommend. You mention the Talbot MS but say the
Subject: [LUTE] guitar stringing
It is common practice to string the baroque guitar with the treble strings
of the 4th and 5th courses on the thumb side of the course. This is
because both courses tend to be used primarily as if they were treble
strings and having them this way makes these
A beautiful piece, beautifully played. Is the transcription available?
Charles
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From: Daniel Shoskes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 January 2008 16:24
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Aimez-vous harpsichord musique?
My homage to Claire Antonini's
Thank you all for your comments. As a musicologist, I don't always
agree with my colleagues, but of course I respect their work.
The partial list I mentioned in my original post
Snip
Atton, Ecco, Hoess,
Kaiser, Aman, Koch, Langenwalder, Attore, Mascotto, Stehelin, Greiff,
OK, gang: inquiring minds want to know.
Is there any historical source that correlates the size of a theorbo
with pitch, or tuning, or stringing (single/double courses, single/
double re-entrant)?
On Jan 28, 2008, at 5:44 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
I'm merely pointing out that his advice
Not yet, but I believe the French Lute Society is planning to publish it soon.
I'm especially looking forward to try her Marais transcription.
DS
On Monday, January 28, 2008, at 01:01PM, Charles Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
A beautiful piece, beautifully played. Is the transcription
Very well played!
The sound resembles that of the lute in some way.
Thanks for the post.
2008/1/26, Bernd Haegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Subject: [LUTE] Weiss on a guitar
from the French list, a Spanish guitarist...
et pour faire bonne mesure le m=EAme avec Weiss
I'm merely pointing out that his advice to others is based on no evidence.
I, and others, have used the expression 'toy' theorbos many times to describe
such unhistorical instruments. Theorbos do, indeed, come in various sizes but
those of the size he indicates would have only had the
Is there anyone on the Lute list from Nice or thereabouts who might know of
concerts on either the Friday 18th April or Saturday 19th April?
Does not have to be Any particular period or Instruments - I am part of a
group of 16 visiting Nice for a weekend called Art and Medicine and we
have not
Dmitry Goldobin, a very fine Russian lutenist and harpsichordist lives
there. He is active on the French lute list.
RT
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From: Nck Gravestock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 5:23 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Concerts in April in
If the solo theorbo, being by definition an instrument of shorter
playing length, is known to have been tuned with only the first
course in re-entrant tuning, presumably there was some amount of solo
repertoire for that tuning. Where can it be found? The only solo
repertoire I know of is
As far as reentrant goes, a notch away in size is also a notch in
pitch, so a size smaller can be tuned in double reentrant a tone higher.
So that is really not an issue. I use double for most solo pieces,
but some sound persuasive in single. My solo instrument at 465 in A
is too high for
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