[LUTE] No the same Brescianello? (was) Re: mandora/gallichon music

2008-02-10 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I'd be very interested to know what hard evidence you have for the suggestion that these are two different people. MH Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geminiani guitar pieces display pretty much the same set of sensibilities as his violin and cello sonatas. The gallichon

[LUTE] Re: How About A Lute-Care Handbook?

2008-02-10 Thread henner.kahlert
see also: Jiri Cepelaks website: Taking care of your lute: http://lute.cepelak.cz/care.pdf Henner Martin Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Yes, David Van Edwards' booklet, published by the Lute Society, is excellent. Also, have a look at: http://lute.cepelak.cz/care.pdf Best to

[LUTE] Re: How About A Lute-Care Handbook?

2008-02-10 Thread Martin Shepherd
Yes, David Van Edwards' booklet, published by the Lute Society, is excellent. Also, have a look at: http://lute.cepelak.cz/care.pdf Best to All, Martin To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Signor Tiorba

2008-02-10 Thread Jarosław Lipski
Well, I use firefox too, but can't read this book either. Are you sure it's free? JL -Original Message- From: David Tayler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 6:08 AM To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Signor Tiorba Hmmm I just use firefox to read

[LUTE] Re: No the same Brescianello? (was) Re: mandora/gallichon music

2008-02-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
1. There is no hard evidence otherwise. 2. Real Brescianello's music is lofty and finely crafted, neither of which is observed in the gallichon pieces in question. The latter also display none of the real Brescianello experience as a polyphonist and an operatic composer. 3. The real B. style

[LUTE] Re: Lute News 84 Music Supp.

2008-02-10 Thread Denys Stephens
Dear Leonard, When I edited that piece I included the repeat signs almost exactly as they are found in the manuscript. The scribe uses an 'S' shaped sign with a dot either side of the top. The original is of course in Italian tablature, and the signs are at the bottom of the stave. Fronimo

[LUTE] Re: Signor Tiorba

2008-02-10 Thread Edward Martin
I clicked on the link, the article was there. ed At 01:09 PM 2/10/2008 +0900, Ed Durbrow wrote: Where do you find the place to read? I just get a link about the book. On Feb 9, 2008, at 10:20 PM, Edward Martin wrote: That was a good read, Signor Musicologisto! To get on or off this list

[LUTE] Re: How About A Lute-Care Handbook?

2008-02-10 Thread Luca Manassero
It's definetely a very interesting question. Indeed most lute players DO know how to take care of their lute(s), but as far as I can remember little guides related to how tochange frets, etc are around. Look on lutemakers web sites (many around)! A good one is available

[LUTE] Re: Signor Tiorba

2008-02-10 Thread Edward Martin
Yes, I have no problem with it. In David Tayler's original message, the URL was on 2 lines. Did you include the complete URL? ed At 12:08 PM 2/10/2008 +0100, =?iso-8859-2?Q?Jaros=B3aw_Lipski?= wrote: Well, I use firefox too, but can't read this book either. Are you sure it's free? JL

[LUTE] Re: How About A Lute-Care Handbook?

2008-02-10 Thread Ray Brohinsky
Reading this, I couldn't help but to wonder whose lutes this guitar repairman is seeing in his shops. No mention was made of that. We are pretty-well aware that some lutes (the term Pakistani has been bandied about) are of inferior or bizarre manufacture. If these are the lutes that guitar-players

[LUTE] Re: Signor Tiorba

2008-02-10 Thread Tony Chalkley
I'm having the same problem - I get the Google page inviting me to search, giving me a few details about how and where to buy or borrow the book, and a couple of publication details, but no text whatsoever - I do, however get a world map telling me about places mentioned in it. I tried adding

[LUTE] some new research

2008-02-10 Thread Gregory Doc Rossi
I've posted an encyclopedia entry from 1819 about The Guitar, or Cittern. Please have a look - there are some points of interest. The lute and especially the theorbo are mentioned in the same entry. http://www.cetrapublishing.com/citterncafe/ To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: Signor Tiorba

2008-02-10 Thread Sean Smith
Hmmm. I saw it fine too. And Ed M. and, of course, David. --all here in the US. Might I hazard the guess that it's only regionally available? I think http://tinyurl.com/ has been mentioned before. Just paste the monster url into the tiny url slot and voila da gamba: a portable descant from

[LUTE] Re: How About A Lute-Care Handbook?

2008-02-10 Thread Daniel F Heiman
David: Maybe this guy's guitar-playing friends are all as uninformed about lutes as he is, and the only lute any of them has ever purchased is one of the Pakistani approximations available in quantity on E-Bay. Apparently those are indeed unplayable as received (I have never seen one) and might

[LUTE] Re: How About A Lute-Care Handbook?

2008-02-10 Thread Edward Martin
I have seen a few of them, and yes, they are unplayable as received. ed At 11:10 AM 2/10/2008 -0600, Daniel F Heiman wrote: David: Maybe this guy's guitar-playing friends are all as uninformed about lutes as he is, and the only lute any of them has ever purchased is one of the Pakistani

[LUTE] Re: How About A Lute-Care Handbook?

2008-02-10 Thread Guy Smith
Also, the luthiers I know will admit that in the seventies, when they were still essentially reinventing the craft, there were a number of lutes built that went a little too far in the direction of lightweight construction, and did often fail after a few years. I remember Paul O'Dette apologizing

[LUTE] Re: Signor Tiorba

2008-02-10 Thread David Tayler
Here's the tiny http://tinyurl.com/3xcgqz I'm thinking this is a java issue if you can't view the books. If I have time I'll download the pdf dt (dottore tiorba) -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Lute Care

2008-02-10 Thread Nck Gravestock
David Van Edwards wrote a little booklet on caring for your lute available from the (English) Lute Society as one of their publications - I think it is still in print! Nick Gravestock To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: How About A Lute-Care Handbook?

2008-02-10 Thread Anthony Hind
It used to be said that all flat sound-boarded instruments, including guitars, had a fairly short life span of about twenty years, before they need to have their sound-boards replaced. Some lutists seem to sell their lutes on, after about that time period. However, when Michael Lowe spoke

[LUTE] Re: Lute News 84 Music Supp.

2008-02-10 Thread Leonard Williams
Denys-- A very humble opinion here (I can't really play the piece fluently, but the repeat signs piqued my interest to try it): The repeat at the start of 58 omits a cadence which is found (simplified) in bar 48. It seems that the repeated section should include either 48 through and

[LUTE] Re: No the same Brescianello? (was) Re: mandora/gallichon music

2008-02-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
Hi Roman, you're right. Piero Prosser pointed out that the 18 gallichone sonatas could have been written by Johann Paul Shiffelholtz. DR - Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:25 PM Subject: