[LUTE] Re: 4th course octave on 7c?

2008-05-24 Thread Ron Andrico
Hello John: It's good to hear from you. There is evidence, often overlooked with our collective need to create and adhere to broad historical categories, that lutes with more than six courses were used in the early 16th century. A very good reference, that I have mentioned previously on thi

[LUTE] Re: 4th course octave on 7c, loaded, TI/TO?

2008-05-24 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Rob, John and Martin Martin Shepherd says "The music often suggests octaves when a cadence is resolved at the "wrong" octave, or a scale passage jumps octave for no apparent reason, or a note which is needed for correct voice leading or point of imitation is apparently missing but sup

[LUTE] Choosing Strings

2008-05-24 Thread robustus
Greetings Lute People, I have written to this group a few times concerning my efforts to resurrect a lute that had been in the closet for many years (no pun intended!). In any case I am having string breakage problems trying to tune up to A440, with the 7 courses on D-G-C-F-A-D-G. In particular, in

[LUTE] Re: 4th course octave on 7c, loaded, TI/TO?

2008-05-24 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear Anthony and All, Just a couple of things to add: One of my examples from Cutting (not in the message you quote, I think) is the Pavan "Sans per" and its galliard, which makes extensive use of a 7th at D but only makes sense with an octave on the 4th course. This suggests he had good eno

[LUTE] Re: 4th course octave on 7c, loaded, TI/TO?

2008-05-24 Thread Anthony Hind
Thanks, Martin for that very helpful "mise au point". Are there any paintings in which we can see clearly a 7c with the 4th with Octave? I am not questioning that this existed, but just thinking that it would give another piece of evidence. In the Caravaggio painting the lute seems too obli

[LUTE] Re: Choosing Strings

2008-05-24 Thread wikla
On 5/24/2008, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I remember reading in some message here about on-line calculators, but looking > over my saved messages I can't seem to find that one. Couple of my calculators: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Calcs/wwwscalc.html http://ww

[LUTE] Re: Choosing Strings

2008-05-24 Thread Martin Shepherd
I note with interest that Arto's calculator allows us to work out the stringing for a 10m theorbo - what shall we say for the fingerboard strings, only 5m? How many lute players does it take to play a Finnish theorbo? Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/24/2008, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAI

[LUTE] Re: Choosing Strings

2008-05-24 Thread Peedu Timo
Our Finnish theorbo is used with loud instruments and outdoors. It takes one to pluck and four on a ladder to work on the fingerboard. Timo ;-) Lähettäjä: Martin Shepherd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lähetetty: la 24.5.2008 16:52 Vastaanottaja: lute@cs.dartmouth.

[LUTE] Re: Choosing Strings

2008-05-24 Thread Martin Shepherd
Oh you mean like an Alpenhorn? Just don't try playing "the flight of the bumblebee" on it... Martin Peedu Timo wrote: Our Finnish theorbo is used with loud instruments and outdoors. It takes one to pluck and four on a ladder to work on the fingerboard. Timo ;-) ___

[LUTE] Re: Choosing Strings

2008-05-24 Thread roman turovsky
Stricktly reindeer gut strung, in 1/2 comma Lappi temperament. RT - Original Message - From: "Peedu Timo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Martin Shepherd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 10:07 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Choosing Strings Our Finnish theorbo is used with loud i

[LUTE] Re: Choosing Strings

2008-05-24 Thread howard posner
On May 24, 2008, at 6:52 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: > I note with interest that Arto's calculator allows us to work out > the stringing for a 10m theorbo - what shall we say for the > fingerboard strings, only 5m? Anything shorter than 3 meters is a toy theorbo anyway. -- To get on or off

[LUTE] Re: Choosing Strings

2008-05-24 Thread wikla
On 5/24/2008, "Martin Shepherd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I note with interest that Arto's calculator allows us to work out the > stringing for a 10m theorbo - what shall we say for the fingerboard > strings, only 5m? How many lute players does it take to play a Finnish > theorbo? Well, you c

[LUTE] Re: Choosing Strings

2008-05-24 Thread Gernot Hilger
Don't say that too loudly. You'll fall prey to Stephen Barber's wrath. Ask Martyn! On 24.05.2008, at 16:25, howard posner wrote: On May 24, 2008, at 6:52 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: I note with interest that Arto's calculator allows us to work out the stringing for a 10m theorbo - what shal

[LUTE] Re: Choosing Strings

2008-05-24 Thread howard posner
On May 24, 2008, at 10:26 AM, Gernot Hilger wrote: > Don't say that too loudly. You'll fall prey to Stephen Barber's > wrath. Ask Martyn! I'm far more likely to fall prey to Martyn's wrath. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/inde