[LUTE] Re: breathing

2008-09-28 Thread Ed Durbrow
On Sep 28, 2008, at 12:53 AM, damian dlugolecki wrote: Regular breathing is essential to maintaining composure while playing; but I wonder if some of you might think about breathing in more detail when learning a piece. Do you breathe differently when playing a Courante than an

[LUTE] Re: breathing

2008-09-28 Thread David Tayler
As a singer, I find breathing very important; as a lute player, I find not breathing very important. Why this is, I don't know, but it definitely affects my accuracy. dt On Sep 28, 2008, at 12:53 AM, damian dlugolecki wrote: Regular breathing is essential to maintaining composure while

[LUTE] Re: breathing

2008-09-28 Thread Daniel Winheld
As a mammal, I find breathing vital for more things than I can begin to list here; and apparently I continue to breathe- albeit unconsciously- during lute practice no matter what the dance style, rhythm, or lack thereof. Extended hemiolas have left me short of breath if I run into them

[LUTE] Re: breathing

2008-09-28 Thread Peter Martin
Yes, the left hand thumb, unregarded but vital. I do quite often mark in 'fingerings' for it, to remind myself where it should go for difficult shifts or awkward chords. Makes a lot of difference. P 2008/9/28 Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sep 28, 2008, at 12:53 AM, damian

[LUTE] Re: Lute sound

2008-09-28 Thread Mathias Rösel
howard posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: might argue that there _was_ kinda ideal sound. On my way through the museum of musical instruments in Vienna, I learned that in the 16th century it was Spaltklang. The obvious question would be who said that? The museum's iPod 8) I was under the

[LUTE] Re: Lute sound

2008-09-28 Thread howard posner
On Sep 28, 2008, at 5:57 AM, Mathias Rösel wrote: might argue that there _was_ kinda ideal sound. On my way through the museum of musical instruments in Vienna, I learned that in the 16th century it was Spaltklang. The obvious question would be who said that? The museum's iPod 8) And

[LUTE] Re: Lute sound

2008-09-28 Thread vance wood
I suspect a couple of things on this issue that go toward the nature of strings as it relates to sound and playing position. The concept, nature and tension of strings from an historical view point has been discussed here many times and at length. The only absolute that we can derive from

[LUTE] Re: Lute sound

2008-09-28 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Well put, Vance. A very sensible account of the problem of sound ! Thanks for making things clear for everybody. There's relativity in everything, as someone said before me... ;-) Jean-Marie === 28-09-2008 18:01:08 === I suspect a couple of things on this issue that go toward the

[LUTE] No ay en la tierra

2008-09-28 Thread Greet Schamp
Dear collective lute wisdom, Can any of you give me a lute version of the song No (h)ay en la tierra by Tessier, I have the score but cannot find the source where to find the tablature. Thanks! Greet -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: No ay en la tierra

2008-09-28 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Hi Greet, This song is by Guillaume Tessier, Charles's father, and the only known source is an incomplete set of parts of 1584 : altus missing, so it needs reconstructing. The original edition of 1582 is worse : we only have the tenor part ! To my knowledge, there was never a version with lute

[LUTE] Re: No ay en la tierra

2008-09-28 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Je ne connais pas cette pièce en particulier, mais j'ai des doutes à la vue des 2 bémols à la clé... Je ne serais pas surpis que le ton original ait été plutôt ré mineur ? Bon courage, Jean-Marie === 28-09-2008 19:41:27 === Merci Jean Marie! Alors je dois faire encore le travail,

[LUTE] Re: breathing

2008-09-28 Thread David Tayler
I think that the singing is the important part here. The players then were able to sing a part song at sight, that's what all the great ones of the renassance agree on. Once you can do that, you can choose to adapt your singing--and the breathing that is part of the singing technique--to your

[LUTE] Re: Respighi

2008-09-28 Thread Arthur Ness
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Arthur Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Paul Pleijsier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Respighi | Arthur, Hello Chris, | I'm curious about the lutenist who

[LUTE] Re: Respighi

2008-09-28 Thread Arthur Ness
David was a 19th-century, not 18th- century violin virtuoso. Sorry. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Lute sound

2008-09-28 Thread David van Ooijen
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 6:01 PM, vance wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is not difficult to assume that as more strings are added that, of necessity, they would, or should have to be of lesser tension else the instrument would implode under the combined pressure of additional courses. Not to

[LUTE] Re: Lute sound

2008-09-28 Thread Mathias Rösel
howard posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: might argue that there _was_ kinda ideal sound. On my way through the museum of musical instruments in Vienna, I learned that in the 16th century it was Spaltklang. The obvious question would be who said that? MGG (3rd ed) had it as a usual

[LUTE] Re: Respighi

2008-09-28 Thread chriswilke
Arthur, --- Arthur Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ConcerTINO alla Mariachi for Guitar and Orchestra. In his edition and in order to win the argument with the Segovia biographer, the guitarist had upgraded the work from Concertino to Concerto.g That's fraud, too, because it would

[LUTE] Re: Respighi

2008-09-28 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
- Original Message - From: Arthur Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008 3:27 pm Subject: [LUTE] Re: Respighi To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Pleijsier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Please don't misunderstand me... No one has questioned the

[LUTE] Re: Respighi

2008-09-28 Thread howard posner
On Sep 28, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Arthur Ness wrote: He argued that Segovia was lying when he bragged to have commissioned the first guitar concerto of the 20th century. What was this concerto Segovia was supposed to have commissioned? -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Respighi

2008-09-28 Thread steve gottlieb
The Ponce Concierto del Sur, which was not the first of the century either; Castelnuovo-Tedesco and Rodrigo finished theirs first. On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:18 PM, howard posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 28, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Arthur Ness wrote: He argued that Segovia was

[LUTE] Canadian lutenist

2008-09-28 Thread Bruno Correia
I attended a concert yesterday by Daniel Taylor (countertenor) and this Canadian lutenist: [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fywq5xWUXxo It was the loudest lute recital I've ever heard. He was overpowering the singer, quite unusual! I'm sure he plays with nails... BTW, It was