[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

What exactly do you mean by "optimized for tone and playability"? Mark -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von David Tayler Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. Januar 2010 01:20 An: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Re: constructi

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

I think, most of the remarks here are very tasteful, but I am not hundred percent happy how strongly they defend the usual not-saying-anything. Why not expend the borders, getting a little used to a more honest exchange? After all, silence means that nothing is said... Recently, some

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

I think, most of the remarks here are very tasteful, but I am not hundred percent happy how strongly they defend the usual not-saying-anything. Why not extend the borders, getting a little used to a more honest exchange? After all, silence means that nothing is said... Recently, some

[LUTE] Re: Reasons to "tube" videos

Haïku for Arto ;-) Narcissus, What a lovely flower, Waiting for it to retrun when the snow will be gone ! Valéry - Original Message - From: "wikla" And a certain "Narcissos" factor cannot be denied... ;-) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartm

[LUTE] string spacing

Hi David, As I got some money I am considering ordering a better Renaissance lute and a vihuela (not clear which kind, as I have rarely an opportunity to try vihuelas, and audio files, CDs etc. are not always so telling as needed for narrowing down one's options... but I think this

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

I think one could offer constructive commentary that is a bit more pointed that was of a statistical nature that might be helpful. For example, one can say that out of say 500 videos 50 percent of the lutes do not have the string spacing optimized for tone and playability But even this is sort

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

I appreciate it when people point out mistakes, but it has to be handled well. For example, there are some videos where people are playing something twice as fast or twice as slow, double or half timing. Now it is obvious in this case that the player is not aware of it, and one *might* send a per

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: b-lute debut

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Markus Lutz wrote: > The source for the pieces, you uploaded, is PRAHA, Státní archív (CZ-Pa) Ms. > RPI 504, cf. > http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=2&type=ms&ms=CZ-PaRPI504&lang=eng > thank you, Markus. I'll check and correct! David - played not from the facsi

[LUTE] Re: three more Lute Lessons

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Monica Hall wrote: > able to see close up exactly what the right and left hands are doing. Make that left and right ... ;-) > maybe the next time you have a spare weekend  you could do one or > two baroque guitar pieces. I'm sure there are better b-guitar player

[LUTE] Re: Reasons to "tube" videos

Thank you for that fine playing of an engaging piece, Arto. You wrote: "Of course each of us, who write or send music to the net, know that the stuff will be there forever" Is this necessarily so? A delete option does appear, and I would hope that we are able to delete early

[LUTE] Reasons to "tube" videos

Hi lute gang, to me the reasons to publish more or less unpolished lute performances in the Net have been very, very varying! [The following history and the links to the pieces can be seen in http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/own/videos.html] In the beginning, April 2008, I just found s

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

Of course, Bernd, what else did you imagine ? Jean-Marie ;-) = == En réponse au message du 11-01-2010, 17:42:17 == > > > >> Thank you ever so much, Franz ! We, lefties, had to wait all these years > >But how do you do it? Do you also rewrite the tablatures so t

[LUTE] Re: Conradi Sonata

And of course the fine rendition by the late Michael Schaffer of the A major suite on his recording of "French Baroque Lute Suites", which was available on CD, don't think it's still in print, but used copies may be available. Definitely a must have. Dan -- Rachel Winheld 820 Colusa Avenue Ber

[LUTE] Re: Conradi Sonata

There are more Conradi recordings: Neue Lautenstuecke Lutenist: Rainer Waldeck ww.earlymusic.com The Baroque Lute Sony CB621 Lutenist: Eugen Dombois Regards Albert TREE EDITION - Music for the Lute - Albert Reyerman Finkenberg 89 23558 Luebeck Germany

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

Monica Hall wrote: I think it depends on the purpose for which players post their videos. Stuart often posts some of the Foscarini pieces I am transcribing and I'm sure he wont mind my saying that they are not polished professional performances. Often they are done in a hurry as well. But

[LUTE] Re: Conradi Sonata

Ed Martin has learned quite a bit about the multiple Conradis- and has recorded them as well. Perhaps he will weigh in here on this, unless it was already dealt with and may be in the archives. Dan >I didn't know Conradi's music so thanks for sharing these beautiful pieces. >I'd love to hear

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical & Three more

>I have a very unconstructive commentary to David and Jean-Marie, you >both are holding your lute on the wrong side ! This is actually a point of serious interest. Normally, watching someone of opposite hand/eye orientation do a familiar task is disorienting, (at least on the immediate percepti

[LUTE] Re: Conradi Sonata

A facsimile of the Conradi Lute music is available from TREE EDITION www.Tree-Edition.com Nicolás Valencia schrieb: Daniel, I didn't know Conradi's music so thanks for sharing these beautiful pieces. I'd love to hear that Barto's bootleg! I looked at the New Grove Dictionary of Music and fou

[LUTE] Odd problem with the list

Hi! I've recently noticed that I seem to be missing the original posts on a number of threads. The giveaway is that I get a lot of messages beginning with "Re:" but no sign of the original post. For example, the current thread entitled "Conradi Sonata". And yes, I've checked my spam box! Has anyon

[LUTE] Re: Elizabeth Kenney CD

I made a tinyurl for that Amazon link, since it's getting broken over multiple lines and messing up the link for me: http://tinyurl.com/kenny-lute-cd The Hyperion website also has good sample clips (I really like Hyperion's website):

[LUTE] Re: Conradi Sonata

Daniel, I didn't know Conradi's music so thanks for sharing these beautiful pieces. I'd love to hear that Barto's bootleg! I looked at the New Grove Dictionary of Music and found there are two Conradi. Based on the publication date you give (1724), I guess these works are from Johann Melchior, so

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

Thank you ever so much, Franz ! We, lefties, had to wait all these years But how do you do it? Do you also rewrite the tablatures so that they run from right to left? I always watch your youtube clips in a little mirror because otherwise it would confuse me.. Best wishes B To get on

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

Thank you ever so much, Franz ! We, lefties, had to wait all these years until someone - you - understood at last and had the guts to acknowledge this fact :-))) Best wishes, Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 11-01-2010, 14:13:59 == > > > I ha

[LUTE] Re: RCM Catalogue

Thank - you [and thank-you Waling who also replied]. That makes sense and matches up with what I can see a the bottom of my own guitar. Monica - Original Message - From: [1]Trovatrice To: [2]Monica Hall Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 3:01 PM Subject: Re

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

Valery, My take on YouTube is that you take your chances when you post a video. Its an open forum and anyone can make suggestions whether they are constructive or not. (Yes, there are some jerks on there. Hopefully the folks on this list will be more respectful and helpful.) For someon

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

This has been an instructive thread. Recently I've posted a few short pieces on youtube (edward18121) but haven't mentioned this to anyone but a few friends. Initially, I thought my motivation for doing this would be to get some constructive critical commentary, especially since I

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

Stuart wrote: "I could see the use of something like a ning site dedicated only to constructive criticism of performances lute/allied plucked intruments - where you have to sign up to comment and preferably you sign up on the understanding that you submit something. And each person would indi

[LUTE] Re: Conradi Sonata

Well, let me just say that I really appreciate the videos you and others put up. I come across some interesting lute repertoire that I may or may not transcribe for guitar ... and some of this music puts me one more step towards ordering a Liuto Forte. Thanks! Best, Mark -Original M

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: b-lute debut

David, nice to hear you play baroque lute, although I must say that it really means Weichenberger is really fine music and a little bit underestimated. But as far as I know we cannot be wholly sure, that these pieces are by Weichenberger, because there is only a "W" at the end of every piece.

[LUTE] Elizabeth Kenney CD

On the subject of professionals who really DO play well, I've been listening to Liz Kenney's new CD, Flying Horse-Music from the ML Lutebook. Excellent sound and performance. Here's the Amazon link that has sound excerpts: <[1]http://www.amazon.com/Flying-Horse-Music-ML-Lutebook/dp/

[LUTE] Re: Conradi Sonata

Ok, I started the ball rolling and was going to let it rest, but I feel compelled to make a few comments (realizing that this discussion is now across 2 threads). 1) Franz, please do have the courage of your convictions. You made a comment that was intended to be critical, even if c

[LUTE] Re: three more Lute Lessons

I just watched all these and was really impressed. It is so helpful to be able to see close up exactly what the right and left hands are doing. There is seldom the the opportunity to do this. David - maybe the next time you have a spare weekend you could do one or two baroque guitar pieces.

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

> maybe these two geniuses found out how to hold the instrument properly > - and the rest of us holds it to the wrong side! :-) Yes, that’s probably right, because compared with them my own play sounds quite poorly. Jörg :-) To get on or off this list see list information a

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

> I have a very unconstructive commentary to David and Jean-Marie, you both are holding your lute on the wrong side ! Val ;- maybe these two geniuses found out how to hold the instrument properly - and the rest of us holds it to the wrong side! :-) F

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

I have a very unconstructive commentary to David and Jean-Marie, you both are holding your lute on the wrong side ! Val ;- -Message d'origine- De : lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] De la part de Jean-Marie Poirier Envoyé : lundi 11 janvier 2010 10:45 À :

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

I'm sorry but my english doesn't allow me to make great dissertations... but I agree with David point of view, and I think constructive commentary should be done in private message, and as he said by people knowing what they talk about. I remember very constructive messages shared by Gert de Vries

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

I think it depends on the purpose for which players post their videos. Stuart often posts some of the Foscarini pieces I am transcribing and I'm sure he wont mind my saying that they are not polished professional performances. Often they are done in a hurry as well. But I find them enormous

[LUTE] Re: Conradi Sonata

From: "Peter Martin" There was a gentleman named Igor a little while ago, who was not afraid to offer adverse (rude, actually) opinions on YouTube lute videos. He was hounded off the list as a troll. Nobody has dared say anything since. P I believe I have taken umbrage at the quali

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

Sauvage Valéry wrote: So I'm not sure Youtube is the place for constructive commentary, but more for sharing music we love I've put up some youtube videos. Is it folly, vanity, lack of self-awareness? Sometimes it's like a goal to aim for - to choose a piece, practice it, video it, and upload

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

I am a hundred percent with you David (and Valéry), carried away or not ! Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 11-01-2010, 10:33:41 == > >There seem to be several subject headers around dealing with what >this, I'll stick to this one. > >I've had my fair sh

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

There seem to be several subject headers around dealing with what this, I'll stick to this one. I've had my fair share of lessons and I teach. Lessons or commentary from fellow students at a conservatory are not for people with a fragile ego, but all comments are fair. People know what they talk a

[LUTE] Re: three more Lute Lessons

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Peter Nightingale wrote: > At some time in the past there was content in the little windows that pop > up in your youtube videos. Now they appear to be empty.  Somehow, my These are called annotations, and I make a few for each piece. Perhaps there is a way of s

[LUTE] Re: Conradi Sonata

There was a gentleman named Igor a little while ago, who was not afraid to offer adverse (rude, actually) opinions on YouTube lute videos. He was hounded off the list as a troll. Nobody has dared say anything since. P 2010/1/10 Franz Mechsner <[1]franz.mechs...@northumbria.ac.u