[BAROQUE-LUTE] A rondeau

2011-05-05 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://www.torban.org/audio/solo00c.mp3 http://www.torban.org/images/solo00.pdf A rondeau on a Ukrainian ballad tune, with a da capo Aria on the opening motiff of the rondeau - http://www.polyhymnion.org/swv/music/aria33/solo3bb.mp3 http://www.polyhymnion.org/swv/music/aria33/solo3bb.pdf

[LUTE] New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread Ron Andrico
To All: We have a new blog post raising a few questions about modern music on the lute - not against the idea, by the way. [1]http://mignarda.wordpress.com Ron Donna -- References 1. http://mignarda.wordpress.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread Gilbert Isbin
Why should a modern voicing sound ugly on a lute. Play Dm11 for instance. Not bad. Gm13/D . What's wrong with it ? Sounds very beautiful to me. Why shouldn't it be possible to integrate lute techniques in modern lute compositions? Try C9sus4 followed by a bass line, or a single note run on

[LUTE] Re: New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread wikla
Yes Gilbert! And they were really very inventive already in 17th cetury; just take a look to La Comete by Gallot: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/11_courseLute/GallotsCometeM.pdf Arto On Thu, 5 May 2011 15:21:04 +0200, Gilbert Isbin gilbert.is...@telenet.be wrote: Why should a

[LUTE] Re: New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread Ron Andrico
Gilbert, Arto: I don't recall having described modern music as 'ugly' nor having railed against inventiveness. My point is just to ask the questions. But I will add that the 16th century lute was designed for and excels at transparent polyphony and, while modern chordal sounds can

[LUTE] Re: New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread Roman Turovsky
Ron, the questions are totally valid, and 98% of modern music is in fact ugly. This certainly does NOT apply to Gilbert, as his music is neither ugly nor modern (it is jazz-influenced, and as such has a certainn historicist air to it, and it is certainly not modernist). Jazz-influenced

[LUTE] Re: New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread David van Ooijen
On 5 May 2011 15:21, Gilbert Isbin gilbert.is...@telenet.be wrote: Why should a modern voicing sound ugly on a lute. Play Dm11 for instance. Not bad. Gm13/D . What's wrong with it ? Sounds very beautiful to me. Why shouldn't it be possible to integrate lute techniques in modern lute

[LUTE] composition

2011-05-05 Thread Anton Höger
hi, for all of you who want to hear a composition of me here is a youtube link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg8fP32t6Lg I wrote this composition 1988 for 4 guitars. (Zimmermann Musikverlag - Frankfurt) The kids who are playing this composition won a prize. Allthough there are a few wrong

[LUTE] Re: New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread Martin Shepherd
Hi Ron, Interesting questions, reproduced here for clarity, my comments beneath: 1. Is superimposing a new harmonic language on a historical instrument worth the bother, when the reason most people are interested in the lute is its connection with music of the past? In

[LUTE] Re: New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread Nancy Carlin
As we know the division between composition and arranging/making divisions was a bit blurry in earlier centuries, 2 modern musicians come to mind. Last June in Cleveland Paul O'Dette played music from his dall'Aquilla recording and he played a version of one of the recercars from

[LUTE] lute kits

2011-05-05 Thread Charles Browne
Dear all, What do you generally think of the lute kits that are available and are they worth buying? The wife of a friend wants to buy her husband a lute (in kit form ?EMS) for his 50th birthday. Obviously she cannot ask him but asked me whether this was a sensible idea. Her husband is a

[LUTE] Re: lute kits

2011-05-05 Thread Guy Smith
I haven't heard much good about them, but maybe they've improved. If he's a reasonably experienced woodworker, I'd recommend David van Edwards CD-ROM course, which is designed for beginners and quite well done. More labor intensive than a kit, but probably a much better result. I just wish I could

[LUTE] Re: New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread wikla
Hi Martin (and all), thanks for your interesting posting! Mainly I agree, but still a couple modest comments (in my limited English): On Thu, 05 May 2011 17:26:13 +0100, Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote: In historical lute music, there are already several different harmonic

[LUTE] Re: lute kits

2011-05-05 Thread Martin Shepherd
I don't know exactly what kits are available, but I saw one recently which had a ready made back. It looked OK, but it did have a rather large block of hardwood in the bottom end instead of a spruce liner, so it seems they still haven't ever seen a proper lute. I agree, David Van Edward's

[LUTE] Re: New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread David van Ooijen
On 5 May 2011 21:46, wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi wrote: The only music there is, is the music of this moment. In this sense all music is modern music. Taking that one step further, I think all of today's so-called Early Music is just another form of modern music, and has but little to do with

[LUTE] Re: New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread Martin Shepherd
Yes, Arto, I agree absolutely that all music is modern music. If I play a piece by Dowland it is actually also a piece by me, because I'm playing it and making all sorts of choices about how I want it to sound. The result may bear little resemblance to any music anyone heard four centuries

[LUTE] Re: New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread Edward Mast
Our Early Music movement is just a form of modern music in disguise. I wonder if you've read some of the writings of Richard Taruskin, David . . . Ned On May 5, 2011, at 4:02 PM, David van Ooijen wrote: On 5 May 2011 21:46, wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi wrote: The only music there is, is the

[LUTE] Re: New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread wikla
Just as you say, dear David! :-) But isn't it anyhow very happy that we do have our modern Monteverdi, Lully, Gallot, B.Strozzi and all those guys and girls! They've put some ink on paper and we can still feel deep and happy by trying to understand and even play some sounds and music by reading

[LUTE] Re: New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread David van Ooijen
On 5 May 2011 22:17, Edward Mast nedma...@aol.com wrote: Our Early Music movement is just a form of modern music in  disguise.  I wonder if you've read some of the writings of Richard Taruskin, David And Haynes, as well as Koopman, Harnoncourt, Dart, Dolmtesch, Burney and Quantz to name but a

[LUTE] Re: composition

2011-05-05 Thread Stuart Walsh
On 05/05/2011 16:13, Anton Höger wrote: hi, for all of you who want to hear a composition of me here is a youtube link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg8fP32t6Lg I wrote this composition 1988 for 4 guitars. (Zimmermann Musikverlag - Frankfurt) The kids who are playing this composition won

[LUTE] Re: composition

2011-05-05 Thread Edward Mast
A very nice work, Anton. On May 5, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Anton Höger wrote: hi, for all of you who want to hear a composition of me here is a youtube link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg8fP32t6Lg I wrote this composition 1988 for 4 guitars. (Zimmermann Musikverlag - Frankfurt) The

[LUTE] Re: New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread Christopher Wilke
Gilbert, et al, I had a modern lute moment last week. I'm participating in a jazz performance workshop and I realized that I had forgotten the cord (not the chords - I always forget those) to my electric guitar when I got to the last meeting. Luckily, I had Monteverdi rehearsal earlier in

[LUTE] Re: composition

2011-05-05 Thread howard posner
Very nice. Is there some idiomatic meaning to Die Gezeiten des Walden that the English Tides of the Forest doesn't translate? On May 5, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Anton Höger wrote: hi, for all of you who want to hear a composition of me here is a youtube link

[LUTE] Re: New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread Daniel Winheld
To All: We have a new blog post raising a few questions about modern music on the lute - not against the idea, by the way. [1]http://mignarda.wordpress.com Ron Donna What an interesting moment for this to come up- I have been playing mostly modern (classical) guitar music on the lute

[LUTE] Re: New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread Stuart Walsh
On 05/05/2011 23:02, Christopher Wilke wrote: Gilbert, et al, I had a modern lute moment last week. I'm participating in a jazz performance workshop and I realized that I had forgotten the cord (not the chords - I always forget those) to my electric guitar when I got to the last