[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: D# Minor Suite: fretting implications

2011-11-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
For true intonation the size of a chromatic semitone is different to a diatonic semitone: so that, for example, the interval C# to D is larger than Db to D. Advocates of unequal temperament fretting on the lute will therefore presumably need to decide which key they are in..

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: D# Minor Suite: fretting implications

2011-11-01 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am 01.11.2011, 09:08 Uhr, schrieb Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk: For true intonation the size of a chromatic semitone is different to a diatonic semitone: so that, for example, the interval C# to D is larger than Db to D. Advocates of unequal temperament fretting on

[LUTE] Re: strumming Gervaise

2011-11-01 Thread Stuart Walsh
: I think they're doable on lute plucked as usual although a ren guitar or a cittern would be more suitable for strumming, IMHO. Sean Thanks Sean and Benny. I actually meant ren guitar or cittern (I don't have either!). I was wondering exactly which chords would be strummed - for

[LUTE] Re: strumming Gervaise

2011-11-01 Thread Monica Hall
Thanks Sean and Benny. I actually meant ren guitar or cittern (I don't have either!). I was wondering exactly which chords would be strummed - for example in the two tunes http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/Gervaise/ If you put a chord to each note on the bass line (easy to do) you sometimes would

[LUTE] Re: strumming Gervaise

2011-11-01 Thread benny
I think you could play a chord on every bass note without too much trouble. Two other techniques I've seen/heard/played are: Strumming the rhythm of the top line; subdividing into eighth-note strum patterns at the end of section, especially leading into a repeat. This provides a nice

[LUTE] Re: strumming Gervaise

2011-11-01 Thread Sean Smith
It's nice on the R guitar when the 4-part harmonies work but that is pretty rare. These bransles work best if the rhythm is accented rather than the harmonies so I'd find a strum that works about twice a measure and make sure a melody on the top works. For variation I'd rob from the alto

[LUTE] Re: strumming Gervaise

2011-11-01 Thread Ron Andrico
Stuart: While the choices and execution by (notice I didn't use the ambiguous 'of') a modern folk player might be different, I'm fairly certain that the process is conceptually the same. We have to assume that musicians in the 16th century were skilled enough to reduce the written

[LUTE] Re: strumming Gervaise

2011-11-01 Thread Stuart Walsh
On 01/11/2011 13:44, be...@interlog.com wrote: I think you could play a chord on every bass note without too much trouble. Maybe I'm thinking of these tunes as being quicker than they are usually played. I haven't a clue about them as actual dances so I don't know what would be a realistic

[LUTE] California Lutein'

2011-11-01 Thread Christopher Wilke
Hello all, I'll be making my first trip out from New York to the West Coast later this week to play a solo concert for the Central Coast Guitar Society in the San Luis Obispo/Morro Bay area. This will be a baroque lute concert with Weiss, Hagen, Falckenhagen and Durant on the program. It

[BAROQUE-LUTE] California concert

2011-11-01 Thread Christopher Wilke
Hello all, I'll be making my first trip out from New York to the West Coast later this week to play a solo concert for the Central Coast Guitar Society in the San Luis Obispo/Morro Bay area. This will be a baroque lute concert with Weiss, Hagen, Falckenhagen and Durant on the program. It

[LUTE] Re: strumming Gervaise

2011-11-01 Thread Stuart Walsh
On 01/11/2011 17:30, Ron Andrico wrote: Stuart: While the choices and execution by (notice I didn't use the ambiguous 'of') a modern folk player might be different, I'm fairly certain that the process is conceptually the same. We have to assume that musicians in the 16th

[LUTE] Re: strumming Gervaise

2011-11-01 Thread benny
Yup, what you end up doing depends a great deal on the tempo. Then you have to use your ear. Over-playing and harmonizing each bass note is the temptation. The best continuo players I've seen often do less rather than more, really using the chord sounds as punctuation, and never letting

[LUTE] Re: strumming Gervaise

2011-11-01 Thread tom
I think the comment about looking for the correct tempo by knowing how it was danced is spot-on. There are now quite a few Renaissance dances filmed and available on YouTube. Assuming that these troups are performing the dances correctly, an average tempo for a dance like #s 39 40,

[LUTE] Re: strumming Gervaise

2011-11-01 Thread Ron Andrico
Stuart: I think you may have missed my point - or points. As I said, this is a pet peeve of mine. I believe the level of understanding historical music has sunk to an unfortunately low standard. This has less to do with amateur indulgences versus professional training than it