[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Lutenists It does seem that Aquila has decided to stop gut string production, which is catastrophic for those of us who use loaded guts. There appears to have been but one remaining legal European source for gut, and EU laws are making even this problematic, and are

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread David van Ooijen
A very serious blow. How are other string makers affected? David On 15 November 2011 21:43, Orphenica wer...@orphenica.de wrote: Dear collective lute wisdom, is it true that the production of gut in Europe will be prohibited by European law? As stated on Aquila's web page the production of

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread research
Here is an interesting article: http://gamutmusic.squarespace.com/news/new-beef-gut-strings.html The beef gut comes from Ireland. Dear collective lute wisdom, is it true that the production of gut in Europe will be prohibited by European law? As stated on Aquila's web page the

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Hubert Kwisthout
Dear Lutenists, If the production of gut is going to be banned within the EU, this must be for a particular reason. Thus, it would make sense to find out from the European Commission what the situation is re. the production of gut and the reasons for prohibiting it. If we have found out the

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Franz Mechsner
It seems fear of BSE transmission. F __ Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu im Auftrag von Hubert Kwisthout Gesendet: Mi 16.11.2011 10:37 An: 'Anthony Hind'; 'Orphenica'; lute Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Luca Manassero
Dear List, as Mimmo explains in a video (unfortunately in Italian) on his facebook page, the original beef gut regulation in EU was due to fear of the so-called mad cow disease transmission. In the meantime thou we have discovered that this disease is NOT transmissible and

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread R. Mattes
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:08:14 +0100, Luca Manassero wrote Dear List, as Mimmo explains in a video (unfortunately in Italian) on his facebook page, the original beef gut regulation in EU was due to fear of the so-called mad cow disease transmission. Excuse my ignorance, but since

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Taco Walstra
On 11/16/2011 11:26 AM, R. Mattes wrote: Yes, I had exactly the same question. Apart from this: is gut not used in many medical situations to string people together after cutting by a surgeon for example, or is this perhaps done these days with other materials (nylgut? ;-) ) Taco On Wed, 16

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread David van Ooijen
Apart from this: is gut not used in many medical situations to string people together after cutting by a surgeon for example, or is this perhaps done these days with other materials (nylgut? ;-) ) Finally we found a good use for nylgut! (And a reason why we can choose different colours. ;-)

[LUTE] Quagliati - Toccata Ottavo

2011-11-16 Thread Anton Höger
hi, I have uploaded a really very very fine Lute Duett for 2 lutes ad secundam! Paolo Quagliati - Toccata Ottavo Originally written for Organ. My intavolation for a-lute and 10-ch g lute is a bit tricky to play but sounds very fine, and can be compared with those one of M. Galileo or perhaps

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Mathias Rösel
Well, with sheep, prion disease is called scrapie, isn't it, and it was known long before mad cow disease turned up. Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von R. Mattes Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. November 2011

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Mimmo wrote on facebook that most if not all the string producers use now beef gut, because sheep gut is available only in limited amounts and would not be enough for a sustained production. Beside this he says that to use sheep gut doubles the production time. The use of sheep gut would result

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread William Samson
So - I wonder how many people have actually contracted mad cow disease, scrapie, CJD or other related problems? Of them, I wonder how many caught it from the production processes for musical strings? That's my first question. My second question is how many people have died on our

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Taco Walstra
On 11/16/2011 01:08 PM, William Samson wrote: So - I wonder how many people have actually contracted mad cow disease, scrapie, CJD or other related problems? Of them, I wonder how many caught it from the production processes for musical strings? That's my first question. My

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread A.J. Padilla MD
And the patients then emerge from surgery with their problems rectified. AJP -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Taco Walstra Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 5:35 AM To: R. Mattes Cc: lute list Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Edward Martin
Dan is in the UK at the moment, but I am unaware of any stoppage of gut string making from his shop. He has 4 employees making gut strings, and one is my daughter. I am aware of no lay-off plans. Dan does use beef gut for trebles, simply because they are better, stronger, longer lasting. ed

[LUTE] Re: Gintzler online - basic questions

2011-11-16 Thread Ed Durbrow
On Nov 16, 2011, at 1:20 AM, David Smith wrote: A download turned into PDF is available at [1]http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music. Otherwise you have to download a jpg at a time. Hope this is useful. Useful?!! Darn right it is useful. Very nice. Many thanks for your work!

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread William Samson
HAHA!!! - if not oiled or perhaps varnished . . . From: A.J. Padilla MD gla...@optonline.net To: 'Taco Walstra' wals...@science.uva.nl; 'R. Mattes' r...@mh-freiburg.de Cc: 'lute list' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2011, 12:27 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Martin Eastwell
On 15/11/2011 20:43, Orphenica wer...@orphenica.de wrote: Dear collective lute wisdom, is it true that the production of gut in Europe will be prohibited by European law? As stated on Aquila's web page the production of gut strings and import of raw materials will be prohibited:

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Martin Eastwell
My apologies for my last (empty) message-I pressed the wrong button! It is certainly very bad news that Aquila has stopped gut string production. Mimmo certainly deserves our heartfelt thanks for his heroic researches, and I for one feel that the lute world in general could have been more

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Taco Walstra
On 11/16/2011 01:41 PM, Edward Martin wrote: Dan is in the UK at the moment, but I am unaware of any stoppage of gut string making from his shop. He has 4 employees making gut strings, and one is my daughter. I am aware of no lay-off plans. Dan does use beef gut for trebles, simply because

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Daniel Shoskes
We still use gut in the operating room, usually following treatment with chromic to slow the absorption by the body. I use chromic gut all the time. Mind you, I'm already banned from donating blood in the USA for life because I lived in the UK for 2 years. From the suture supplier

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Daniel Winheld
And fret gut? It is ironic that I can find acceptable synthetic string material, but so far not for frets. Nylon out of the question. Once I tried KFG, figuring that density was part of the problem- transmission of sound through to the neck (gut denser than nylon, KF KFG denser than gut;

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Roman Turovsky
Cezar Mateus has been using yellow nylgut for frets, to excellent results, ever since it became available. RT - Original Message - From: Daniel Winheld dwinh...@comcast.net To: Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com Cc: Orphenica wer...@orphenica.de; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday,

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Roman Turovsky
From: Martin Eastwell eastwe...@mac.com It is a major problem for anyone who wants to play on real lute strings (as opposed to just making a nice noise!). Are you implying that Barto makes a nice noise? RT To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Bruno Fournier
luckily I bought a supply of gut strings and fret gut from Sofracob, just as they closed, to last me the rest of my lifeor at least my playing life I am 53. A good luck to everyone in finding affordable gut.A Maybe the chinese will come up with something,A I'm sure

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Edward Martin
Hi, Taco. Dan has a very cordial relationship with Mimmo. Although they might seem to be competitors, I do not believe there is any animosity between them, and neither party has suffered due to efforts of the other. Mimmo is also a friend of mine, as I have (and continue to) advocate his

[LUTE] Re: Quagliati - Toccata Ottavo

2011-11-16 Thread David Smith
Thank you! David -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Anton Höger Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 2:56 AM To: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Quagliati - Toccata Ottavo hi, I have uploaded a really very very fine Lute Duett for 2