[BAROQUE-LUTE] El Cant Dels Ocells

Mes amics, For your perusal and delectation, a set of Variations on "El Cant Dels Ocells", a Catalan folk song: http://polyhymnion.org/swv/ocells.html in three versions: for baroque lute, archlute, or theorbo. Enjoy! RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmou

[LUTE] Re: Gilded Roses

So lily gilders weren't the only game in town, then? On 1/30/2018 3:10 PM, Alexander Batov wrote: I do indeed. On 30/01/2018 16:52, howard posner wrote: On Jan 30, 2018, at 7:41 AM, Alexander Batov wrote: My only explanation for this is that lute soundboards (with roses already cut in them

[LUTE] Re: Gilded Roses

I do indeed. On 30/01/2018 16:52, howard posner wrote: On Jan 30, 2018, at 7:41 AM, Alexander Batov wrote: My only explanation for this is that lute soundboards (with roses already cut in them), as well as separate roses of various complexity and designs would be made in great numbers by de

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

We are indeed talking about two unrelated pieces. Wolfgang was not talking about the two (or three?) Recercari "Senza Canto" in the D-Mbs Mus. 266 -but instead one of the tone colour echo examples: "a nice example for tone colour (echo) in higher register is: Che debo far che me consegli amo

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

If you look closely, it says Ms. 266 :) Am 30.01.2018 um 21:53 schrieb Rainer: Dear Dan, You and Wolfgang seem to be talking about two different pieces. Ms 267, No. 32 (page 50) does not fit your description. Rainer On 30.01.2018 19:56, Dan Winheld wrote: SO glad to hear that someone else ha

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

Dear Dan, You and Wolfgang seem to be talking about two different pieces. Ms 267, No. 32 (page 50) does not fit your description. Rainer On 30.01.2018 19:56, Dan Winheld wrote: SO glad to hear that someone else has discovered this wonderful bizarre masterpiece by Marco... I have been studyin

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

According to my tab file the treble is from Marsh. I think the treble in Dd.3.18 is almost identical. The ground is a reconstruction by NN. Rainer On 30.01.2018 20:09, Leonard Williams wrote: I am assuming the ground is from Marsh, the treble from Dd.3.18. Correct? Thanks and reg

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo (and senza canto)

A very good video indeed - it made me pledge a Patreon donation. :) You should all support this digitally native lute hero - his videos are really a joy to watch. Am 30.01.2018 um 20:10 schrieb Matthew Daillie: In his latest Memo video, Lukas Henning plays another Marco recercar 'sen

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo (and senza canto)

In his latest Memo video, Lukas Henning plays another Marco recercar 'senza canto' and adds a few inventions of his own for a lute with several broken strings! [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=g-Lzgk8N-yM Best, Matthew On 30/01/2018 19:56, Dan Winheld wrote:

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

I am assuming the ground is from Marsh, the treble from Dd.3.18. Correct? Thanks and regards, Leonard Williams -Original Message- From: Rainer To: Lute net Sent: Tue, Jan 30, 2018 5:44 am Subject: [LUTE] tone colour echo Dear lute netters, I may have pos

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

SO glad to hear that someone else has discovered this wonderful bizarre masterpiece by Marco... I have been studying and practicing it for about a year, almost memorized. It is the ultimate "Recercar/fantasia senza il canto" ever written; surpassing all other pieces of this tiny subgenre; gener

[LUTE] Re: Gilded Roses

> On Jan 30, 2018, at 7:41 AM, Alexander Batov > wrote: > > My only explanation for this is that lute soundboards (with roses already cut > in them), as well as separate roses of various complexity and designs would > be made in great numbers by dedicated guilds of craftsmen, not lute and / or

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

Ms. 266 has a really crazy Aquila ricercar, No 25 (f. 24v), which starts at the lowest course and goes up to 7/h. It's also a senza canto ricercar. Has anyone played this beast?... Am 30.01.2018 um 16:46 schrieb Wolfgang Wiehe: a nice example for tone colour (echo) in higher register is:

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

So what is the difference to what I meant, other than that there are more notes shifted to a different course? It is clearly the same effect - same notes on different courses, albeit a little smaller in size? how is this not a tone colour echo? r___a|r|__f_d d___c|d___f|h___f _|d_f_h|i

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

a nice example for tone colour (echo) in higher register is: Che debo far che me consegli amore BSB Mus. ms. 267 No. 32 (Marco dall Aquila?) greetings Wolfgang http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00032067/images/index.h tml?id=00032067&seite=79&fip=193.174.98.30

[LUTE] Re: Gilded Roses

The same seems also to be true for gilded roses in Italian early - mid-17th century guitars. My only explanation for this is that lute soundboards (with roses already cut in them), as well as separate roses of various complexity and designs would be made in great numbers by dedicated guilds of

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

Wayne, please forgive me :) Rainer On 30.01.2018 15:51, wbc wrote: You can see this as tablature at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/tab-serv/tablature.cgi?drafts/rainer.pdf if you can stand the ugly font. Wayne

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

Yes, it's in 1562[10] and - yes - there are tone colour echoes. This is remarkable since it requires to go up to "l" (at least) on the second course or lower courses. Very interesting. Rainer On 30.01.2018 15:46, Joachim Lüdtke wrote: Nor do I, but Brown records two later editions. It ma

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

You can see this as tablature at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/tab-serv/tablature.cgi?drafts/rainer.pdf if you can stand the ugly font. Wayne > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Rainer > Subject: [LUTE] Re: ton

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

Nor do I, but Brown records two later editions. It may be interesting (at least for someone who is fascinated by the music and the history of its editions) to compare the texts. Years ago I copied the piece from the CNRS edition, which should be based on the earliest known publication, that is o

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

Sorry Rainer, can't open in the demo version, and I'm on Linux... Can you describe what you mean? The pieces I mentioned have the same notes but fretted differently in the echo. I thought you meant that. Am 30.01.2018 um 14:53 schrieb Rainer: $flagstyle=standard %$lutefont=holb -highlightpar

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

You seem to have completely misunderstood me. I mean the same notes in the same octave. Attachments are not allowed here. Therefore I am sending the tab source for the version from Marsh. Save it and open with Fronimo or compile with tab. Note: the lute font looks ugly but I cannot send the fon

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

If what you describe is what I think it is, then I love tone color echoes! Check out: Milán Fantasia 35 - m. 125-130 and from Siena folio 21 m. 40-44 I have seen this in many other pieces, when I find some I'll post it here. Am 30.01.2018 um 11:42 schrieb Rainer: Dear lute netters, I may

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

Looks like I don't have that book (Brown 1554[6]) - g Rainer On 30.01.2018 11:58, Joachim Lüdtke wrote: Dear Rainer, De Rippe's intavolation of Gentian's "Dieu qui conduit" ("L'Eccho"). Best Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] tone colour echo Datum: 2018-0

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

Dear Rainer, De Rippe's intavolation of Gentian's "Dieu qui conduit" ("L'Eccho"). Best Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] tone colour echo Datum: 2018-01-30T11:45:30+0100 Von: "Rainer" An: "Lute net" Dear lute netters, I may have posted this may years ago already - I don'

[LUTE] tone colour echo

Dear lute netters, I may have posted this may years ago already - I don't remember. In the duet treble "Sellinger's Round" (Marsh, p. 182 and Dd.3.18, f. 5r) there is a tone colour echo in bars 57 and 58 - the same notes on different courses. I wonder if anybody knows of any other such echo in