[LUTE] OP for lute songs?

2018-02-18 Thread Martin Shepherd
Hi All, The latest luteshop blog treats a subject which many of us find difficult and interesting: http://luteshop.co.uk/its-not-just-what-you-say-its-how-you-say-it/ Best wishes, Martin --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivir

[LUTE] Re: OP for lute songs?

2018-02-18 Thread Jacob Johnson
Thank you Martin! This is a subject in which I'm very interested. It's just terribly unfortunate that Ben and David Crystal decided to call it "Original Pronunciation"-- it smacks so much of "Authentic Performance" that I'd much rather hear "OP" called "historically informed pronunc

[LUTE] Re: OP for lute songs?

2018-02-18 Thread Jacob Johnson
I'm sorry, the IPA symbols seem to have gotten messed up! Rs were mostly pronounced as alveolar approximants (the "pirate" R) in Elizabethan London, as opposed to alveolar trills or alveolar taps. Jacob Johnson [uc?export=download&id=0B6_gM3BRE6ZrYVVZZU5QNmJqdDQ&revid=0B6_g M3B

[LUTE] Re: OP for lute songs?

2018-02-18 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Thanks Martin! I have been wondering when "OP" singers would appear on the stage :) I have a few questions: * are there any OP singers of Lute song? It seems if there were, you would have included a video... * how did Dowland perform his songs in for example Wolfenbüttel? Or did he just play

[LUTE] Hole in the Wall

2018-02-18 Thread theoj89294
Dear Lute community: Are there any intabulations of the English tune 'Hole in the Wall' (Playford?) for r or b lute? Many thanks, I've always liked that melody. trj -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: OP for lute songs?

2018-02-18 Thread Rainer
On 18.02.2018 19:31, Martin Shepherd wrote: Hi All, The latest luteshop blog treats a subject which many of us find difficult and interesting: http://luteshop.co.uk/its-not-just-what-you-say-its-how-you-say-it/ This reminds me of Goethe's accent. Goethe was born in Frankfurt and obviously

[LUTE] Re: Hole in the Wall

2018-02-18 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear theoj89294(?) Making an intabualation of that nice piece is not very complicated. If you wish, I can quite easily make one for you in the near future. ... In case you just start signing your messages... ;-) Arto On 18/02/18 23:43, theoj89...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu wrote: Dea

[LUTE] Re: OP for lute songs?

2018-02-18 Thread lsa
At the 1982 LSA Seminar, the late Richard Jensen gave a presentation, "Pronunciation of Elizabethan English," with examples sung by Mary Beverley. A cassette tape is available for sale to LSA members (#T-6). But one of my future projects is to post an mp3 of this, and the other lectures given at

[LUTE] Re: OP for lute songs?

2018-02-18 Thread Dmitry Medvedev
A recording of English lute songs by Charles Daniels and Nigel North comes to mind. But, interestingly, there are certain differences between Daniels' pronunciation and David Crystal's theory. For example, 'love' is sung as [lu:v], and 'move' / 'remove' are sung close to modern pronunciation to

[LUTE] Re: OP for lute songs?

2018-02-18 Thread Tristan von Neumann
I have heard [lu:v] before - in the TV series "Misfits"... The character is a white trash girl with a thick accent... I don't know exactly where this is coming from today, maybe a British native can explain. Am 18.02.2018 um 23:55 schrieb Dmitry Medvedev: A recording of English lute songs by Ch

[LUTE] Re: Hole in the Wall

2018-02-18 Thread howard posner
> On Feb 18, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Arto Wikla wrote: > > Dear theoj89294(?) > > Making an intabualation of that nice piece is not very complicated. If you > wish, I can quite easily make one for you in the near future. ... In case you > just start signing your messages... ;-) > > Arto Arto, I’m

[LUTE] Re: Hole in the Wall

2018-02-18 Thread Arto Wikla
Oops! I have already made the intabulation! Just called it "Purcell: Hornpipe". Here is the tab: https://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Arciliuto/PurcellHornpipe200617.JPG And here is my YouTube example of that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7hRdN00B3w&feature=youtu.be Arto On 19/02/18 08

[LUTE] Broeken nylgut string

2018-02-18 Thread Wim Loos
Dear luteplayers, Within a relative short periode, two times my g' (0.44mm nylgut) on a 7-c Renaissance lute has broken. Sounds this familliar to you? What do you suggest as an alternative. Wim Loos -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.e