[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-09 Thread howard posner
> On Aug 9, 2018, at 8:58 PM, Tristan von Neumann > wrote: > > Sorry, I'm German. > > What would you choose? > "Dedicated" seems more like it? No, someone with a stick up his ass is not “dedicated.” Try stuffy, priggish, prim, rigid, pompous, prissy, stiff, starched, sanctimonious,

[LUTE] Re: prostitution / greensleeves

2018-08-09 Thread Franz Mechsner
A propos "green sleeves" - I am not an expert, but the author's appeal to question ad hoc interpretations seems generally important to me. https://earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves1of3mythology/ In any case, the verses of greensleeves really seem to speak of love or at least deep

[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-09 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Sorry, I'm German. What would you choose? "Dedicated" seems more like it? Am 10.08.2018 um 05:48 schrieb howard posner: On Aug 9, 2018, at 8:37 PM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: I meant serious in the sense that he had a stick up his a**. That’s not what “serious” means. To get on or

[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-09 Thread howard posner
> On Aug 9, 2018, at 8:37 PM, Tristan von Neumann > wrote: > > I meant serious in the sense that he had a stick up his a**. That’s not what “serious” means. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-09 Thread Tristan von Neumann
I meant serious in the sense that he had a stick up his a**. He certainly seems like a funny guy to hang around with. The output of Sacred music does not detract from that. :) Am 10.08.2018 um 05:13 schrieb howard posner: On Aug 9, 2018, at 7:34 PM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: Lasso was

[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-09 Thread howard posner
> On Aug 9, 2018, at 7:34 PM, Tristan von Neumann > wrote: > > Lasso was *not* a serious composer. Does this mean he never wrote a closet raga? > He composed the announcement music for the "Gümpelsbrunn Nose Dance" (an > early teaser trailer for an event...), but the festival is probably

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-09 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Dear Jurgen, do you consider this an illusion too? https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/siena-nos-59-63-62-raga-kamod-eri-jaane-na-doongi-nirali-kartik How do you explain this? Listen to the *tonal* percussion and where the lute goes into cadence. How do you explain that the harmonium

[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-09 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Lasso was *not* a serious composer. He composed the announcement music for the "Gümpelsbrunn Nose Dance" (an early teaser trailer for an event...), but the festival is probably legendary because no town named Gümpelsbrunn is known. :) Also, he wrote a letter to his Patron, the Duke of

[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-09 Thread Alain Veylit
Indeed. There is a famous alexandrin in one of Corneille's tragedies: "Et le desir s'accroit quand l'effet se recule". A line that is very, very ambiguous phonetically... On 08/09/2018 05:00 PM, howard posner wrote: obody’s serious all the time. To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-09 Thread howard posner
> On Aug 9, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Alain Veylit wrote: > > I thought Lasso was a rather serious composer... Nobody’s serious all the time. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-09 Thread Alain Veylit
There is a piece in Dd.2.11 entitled: "Catin" (by Orlando di Lasso!). Yesterday I saw one entitled "la pute". What are the odds that neither title would not refer to their modern meaning of "prostitute"? This also reminds me of the not so secret behind "green sleeves". Dutch paintings show many

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-09 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Dear Jurgen, I am afraid you are ill advised in regards to the history of the discovery and exploration of the Indian subcontinent. Already with the first voyage of Vasco to India, Indians have been brought to Europe to have a look at the Portuguese trading goods, to return to India later and

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-09 Thread Jurgen Frenz
Dear Tristan, in all respect I strongly believe you're a victim of the described illusory truth effect. History tells us that the first Europeans to be in direct contact with the Indian subcontinent were the Portuguese starting a trading post in Calcutta in 1505 for spices (clove to start

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-09 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Dear Jürgen, posting an article about the Illusory Truth Effect does not in anyway touch my findings, as the mere existence of such effect does enable you to apply it to everything you disagree with. If you disagree, you are welcome to discuss the claims on the subject itself, otherwise it is