[LUTE] Re: Anachronistic playing style - Adriaenssen

2019-08-11 Thread Tristan von Neumann
This will bother some, but I really mean it. Here is a perfect match that should be evident enough to prove Indian influence. Really, this time. Anyway, when you listen to it, you will hear that the voice is singing bastarda diminutions. That means that not only one voice is used but all

[LUTE] Re: Anachronistic playing style - Adriaenssen

2019-08-11 Thread Mathias Rösel
You might want to have a try and improvise in French baroque lute style. It's not about harmony. Mathias __ Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: Tristan von Neumann Betreff:

[LUTE] Re: Anachronistic playing style - Adriaenssen

2019-08-11 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Thank you Sean, this is a well-pondered thought. I very much appreciate this comment. You are absolutely right. In one episode of me:mo, Lukas Henning talked about a source describing the music of a lutenist (I guess, need to watch that again), who obviously used devices as great dynamics,

[LUTE] Re: Anachronistic playing style - Adriaenssen

2019-08-11 Thread Ron Andrico
Sean, I think your observations about the contents of publications by Phalese and Adriaenssen are worthwhile. I would only like to draw attention to another anachronism you introduced: the idea of performance as a goal on the part of purchasers of these publications. It is clear

[LUTE] Re: Anachronistic playing style - Adriaenssen

2019-08-11 Thread Sean Smith
The answer may lie with the undocumented performers and performing groups. They improvised and different groups would have varied success among tastes of various patrons, situations and other qualifiers. Sometimes these techniques would surface in the printed materials, mss,

[LUTE] Re: Anachronistic playing style - Adriaenssen

2019-08-11 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Dear Joachim, yes I know, I have played all of those. But really I am interested in this kind of off-beat figuration that thrives on thirds. Dowland and maybe Huwet used those sometimes. Huwet was also from the Netherlands and I read Dowland befriended Huwet in Wolfenbüttel. I don't know who

[LUTE] Re: Test 9od temperament)

2019-08-11 Thread Peter Martin
The reason for your 805:0 result could be that there aren't many musical situations in which that doubled F sharp would be desirable. You wouldn't normally double the third in a D major chord and, apart from the F sharp major chord in Sir John Langton's Pavin, there aren't many