[LUTE] Re: Giacomo Merchi: Allegretto per la chitarra 1776

2013-09-05 Thread Pieter Van Tichelen
ime looks remarkably similar although the cistre has more courses. Stuart > > On Sep 5, 2013, at 20:13 , WALSH STUART wrote: > >> On 05/09/2013 06:21, Pieter Van Tichelen wrote: >> >> Hi Stuart, >> Beautiful and I'm happy someone has fina

[LUTE] Re: Giacomo Merchi: Allegretto per la chitarra 1776

2013-09-05 Thread Pieter Van Tichelen
ntier says that his cistre (cythre) music can alternatively be played on the guitharre espagnolle). The (almost) A-tuned cistre was very popular in France at the time and Spanish guitar music and 'cistre' music of the time looks remarkably similar although the cistre has more co

[LUTE] Re: Giacomo Merchi: Allegretto per la chitarra 1776

2013-09-04 Thread Pieter Van Tichelen
Hi Stuart, Beautiful and I'm happy someone has finally started looking into the Merchi publications for (English) guitar. As I have recently done some research into some of his music I can add a bit of background info. Merchi actually preferred the "Spanish" guitar as can be noted fr

[LUTE] Re: Instrument Question

2013-08-07 Thread Pieter Van Tichelen
Hi Craig, Resembles a lirone: [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lirone Kind regards, Pieter ___ From: co...@medievalist.org Sent: 07 August 2013 15:10 To: "Lute List" Subject: [LUTE] Instrument Questio

[LUTE] Re: Lutes and amps

2013-05-25 Thread Pieter Van Tichelen
Hello Though my experience comes from amplifying a baroque mandoline rather than lutes - it's almost the same thing (and to my eternal frustration people almost always think it is a lute ;) ). You might consider using a Schertler DYN-G as well as the DPA. Contact microphones are a

[LUTE] Re: The English Guitar

2013-02-01 Thread Pieter Van Tichelen
Hi Stuart & Martyn, Sorry to say but the most recent theories say the instrument wasn't exactly invented in England / Great Britain. Most evidence seems to point towards the instrument being imported (though it did transform a lot after that) from continental Europe - probably German

[LUTE] Re: 6c guittar

2013-01-29 Thread Pieter Van Tichelen
Hi Stuart, Yes, the terms for plucked instruments are confusing all the time. Even this day - if you say guitar, some people think of the electric, other of the jazz, folk or even other instruments... However, I believe you mixed up something in my argument. The English guit(t)ar I s

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy

2013-01-28 Thread Pieter Van Tichelen
Davide Il giorno 28/gen/2013, alle ore 11:11, Pieter Van Tichelen ha scritto: > Hi Martyn & Monica, > Finally I have managed to dig up an iconographical source relevant to > the discussion, 16th century Italy. Of course, nothing proves that the > instrument depict

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy

2013-01-28 Thread Pieter Van Tichelen
imilar to the cover of the Morlaye book ie unequivocally tying an instrument (of whatever shape!) to a tablature, but.... regards, Martyn --- On Mon, 28/1/13, Pieter Van Tichelen wrote: From: Pieter Van Tichelen Subject: re: [LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy

2013-01-28 Thread Pieter Van Tichelen
Hi Martyn & Monica, Finally I have managed to dig up an iconographical source relevant to the discussion, 16th century Italy. Of course, nothing proves that the instrument depicted is a "chitarrino" but at least it proves some lute-like instrument of soprano range at that time and pl

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy - was Calata de StrAmbotto

2013-01-26 Thread Pieter Van Tichelen
itterns seems to be consistently played with a plectrum throughout its history, even after the lute switched to fingerstyle plucking. Kind regards, Pieter ___ Van: "WALSH STUART" Verzonden: donderdag 24 januari 2013 22:32 Aan: pie...@vantiche

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy - was Calata de StrAmbotto

2013-01-26 Thread Pieter Van Tichelen
s' mentioned in these inventories are FOE or lute-like? (!) Stuart --- On Thu, 24/1/13, WALSH STUART [5] wrote: From: WALSH STUART [6] Subject: [LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy - was Calata de StrAmbotto To: [7]pie...@vantichelen.name Cc: "Lutelist" [8] Date: Th

[LUTE] Re: Bransle Simple for guitarne et guiterne (Gervaise 1557)

2013-01-26 Thread Pieter Van Tichelen
Hello Monica, Stuart relates to some of the written sources in 16th century France - inventories of builders in Paris made when they died. Some of these inventories try to distinguish between "guiterne" and "guitarne" (spelling variations on these exist of course, losing the "n" f

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy - was Calata de StrAmbotto

2013-01-22 Thread Pieter Van Tichelen
Hi Stuart, I've replied on your comments - see inline. Kind regards, Pieter From: "WALSH STUART" Sent: 22 January 2013 21:52 To: pie...@vantichelen.name Subject: [LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy - was Calata de StrAmbotto On 22/01/2013 19:24, Piet

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy - was Calata de StrAmbotto

2013-01-22 Thread Pieter Van Tichelen
___ From: "Martyn Hodgson" Sent: 22 January 2013 10:05 To: pie...@vantichelen.name Subject: [LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy - was Calata de StrAmbotto Dear Pieter, Thanks for this: however I think most of

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy - was Calata de StrAmbotto

2013-01-21 Thread Pieter Van Tichelen
Hi Stuart and Andreas, It's very complex if only have a name to go on; I think we all agree. But if you've got tablature or a tuning chart it's a completely different story. The French baroque mandolin called mandore has a tuning which has fifths and fourths (most notably the c'-g