Re: 'Tastini' - lack of evidence

2005-04-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thank you Arto. The 1584 book is paginated running to page no. 182. Pages 120 through to 175 contain only tablature with no text other than titles of the pieces: - page 155 has an intabulation of 'Non ved'il mondo'; - page 162 of 'Caronte' and 'Mentre di poggia'. In short, as you suggest,

Re: 'Tastini' - lack of evidence

2005-04-06 Thread AJN (boston)
Some of you may wish to know that the English translation by Carol MacClintock of Vincenzo Galilei's _Fronimo (1584),_ American Institute of Musicology, Musicological Studies and Documents, 39 (1985), is still available. My catalogue lists it for $64. AIM publications are distributed by A-R

'Tastini' - lack of evidence

2005-04-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thank you Daniel. So, as I understand it, the sole piece of HISTORICAL evidence is from Vincenzo Galilei's 'Fromino Dialogo' (1568,1584) translated by MacClintock (AIM 1985) as: ..Now I come to the matter of 'tastini' which lately some people seek to introduce to remove some of the

Re: 'Tastini' - lack of evidence

2005-04-05 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Martyn and all On Tuesday 05 April 2005 12:20, Martyn Hodgson wrote: So, as I understand it, the sole piece of HISTORICAL evidence is from Vincenzo Galilei's  'Fromino Dialogo' (1568,1584) translated by MacClintock (AIM 1985) as: ..Now I come to the matter of 'tastini' which lately

Re: 'Tastini' - lack of evidence

2005-04-05 Thread Daniel Shoskes
- hardly, I suggest, a convincing case for their adoption in modern times. No, the case for their adoption in modern times is getting an F# instead of a Gb and a C# instead of a Db in meantone tuning! For that, I am willing to have Gallilei's ghost stare dissaprovingly at me. To get on or

Fwd: Re: 'Tastini' - lack of evidence

2005-04-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
No Daniel, it's not just G I'm afraid but on the basis of historical evidence, or rather lack of it, most other early lutenists. If we are serious about period performance it is important we pay proper regard to what they wld have expected based on the evidence and not our personal

Re: 'Tastini' - lack of evidence

2005-04-05 Thread Caroline Usher
At 06:48 AM 4/5/2005, Daniel Shoskes wrote: - hardly, I suggest, a convincing case for their adoption in modern times. No, the case for their adoption in modern times is getting an F# instead of a Gb and a C# instead of a Db in meantone tuning! For that, I am willing to have Gallilei's ghost

Re: 'Tastini' - lack of evidence

2005-04-05 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Martyn, Yes, I would be most grateful for the relevant page numbers in the original edition(s) -1568 and/or 1584. The MacClintoc translation/edition is of the 1584 version. If I interprete the listings of contents right, the talk about uneven fret placement and tastini starts in page