[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2018-01-20 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Here's one chromatic Pavan by William Corkine, very beautiful. Ayres to sing and play, v.1 (1610), f.e1va http://gerbode.net/sources/Corkine/v_1_1610/lute/pdf/14_pavane_lute.pdf William Corkine seems to have quite a unique style, unlike everything I have tried to play yet. This other Pavan b

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2018-01-19 Thread G. C.
Thanks to Alain for spotting a new one! As I see it, there should be a chromatic theme that is considerable within the piece, not just a chromatic modulation or two. The Doni lute book recently mentioned seems to have potential entries. :) G. On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 10:48 PM, T

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2018-01-19 Thread Tristan von Neumann
I just looked, it's a transposed version of the Gostena Fantasy 25. Sounds good though. Am 19.01.2018 um 21:10 schrieb Alain Veylit: Goran, I think you could add: Fantasia Diomedes - [Cherbury lute book fol. 38/1] to that list. Apologies if this was already in your list. http://fandango.mus

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2018-01-19 Thread Tristan von Neumann
That's funny. I played just today from the Cherbury Book (and failed mostly, these pieces are quite tricky). I didn't get to this piece. Thanks! I had looked at it once, but didn't remember. One question: What do you people consider "chromatic"? Do you mean with a chromatic theme or just with

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2018-01-19 Thread Alain Veylit
Goran, I think you could add: Fantasia Diomedes - [Cherbury lute book fol. 38/1] to that list. Apologies if this was already in your list. http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/files/images/cherbury/Cherbury_78.jpg Alain On 12/19/2017 02:37 PM, G. C. wrote: A quick online archive search

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-19 Thread Steven Farrelly-Jackson
For partial chromatic pieces, I seem to recall that Robert De Visee uses chromaticism in his well known D minor suite for lute (the one recorded by Nigel North decades ago), I think in the sarabande. Maybe a De Visee specialist could confirm ... On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 5:37 PM, G.

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-19 Thread Tristan von Neumann
If you count madrigals: Marenzio's "Venuta era Madonna" from Donaueschingen Lute Book Vol. 3 f.31v some fancy chord progressions for sure. Am 19.12.2017 um 23:37 schrieb G. C.: A quick online archive search also gives a. o. some partial chromatic pieces: 15. Peter Philips Galliard

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-19 Thread G. C.
A quick online archive search also gives a. o. some partial chromatic pieces: 15. Peter Philips Galliard to the Chromatic Pavan 16. "Michelangelo Galilei has some touches of chromaticism. I wonder if Gesualdo's instrumental gagliarda could be transcribed for lute." (Christoph

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-19 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Let's add Michelagnolo Galilei Corrente 16 (slightly chromatic) and the other chromatic Gostena Fantasy is No. 7. (a really nice one indeed, and not as difficult as others in the collection) Am 19.12.2017 um 21:37 schrieb G. C.: So, to summarize, the quest for a list of chromatic works

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-19 Thread G. C.
14. Kapsberger Corrente 7 for chitarrone Is a small performance program emerging? You'll have to be rather dextrous though! :D G. On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 10:18 PM, G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Eugene! Were up to 13 pieces then with Dowland's 2 :) G.

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-19 Thread G. C.
Thanks Eugene! Were up to 13 pieces then with Dowland's 2 :) G. On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Braig, Eugene <[1]brai...@osu.edu> wrote: Clarification: at least two toccatas titled "cromatica" by Piccinini, III and XII from the first lute book (1623). Best, Eugene

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-19 Thread Braig, Eugene
3:38 PM To: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works So, to summarize, the quest for a list of chromatic works for lute has upto now given a nice collection of 11 pieces: Gostena Fantasia 25 Molinaro Fantasia 12 Dowland Forlorne Hope and Farewell Peter Phillips Dolorosa Pavan

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-19 Thread G. C.
So, to summarize, the quest for a list of chromatic works for lute has upto now given a nice collection of 11 pieces: Gostena Fantasia 25 Molinaro Fantasia 12 Dowland Forlorne Hope and Farewell Peter Phillips Dolorosa Pavan Aegidius #22 Galliard Picinnini Toccata Cromatica

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-18 Thread Rainer
On 17.12.2017 22:31, G. C. wrote: Caro Francesco, Molto bello indeed! I encoded this piece into fronimo today. But... _ |_c___| |_c___| |_e___| |_| |_| On page 18 of 2nd book, first chord third measure c2-c3-e4 this does

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-17 Thread G. C.
Got it thanks to Ron. Incroyable! _ |_c___| |_e___| |_e___| |_| |_| G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-17 Thread G. C.
You're right Ralf, I might have gotten a bit carried away, remembering (wrongly) and not checking :) Late saturday meanderings... Sorry! G -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-17 Thread Ralf Mattes
Am Samstag, 16. Dezember 2017 23:49 CET, "G. C." schrieb: >And lets not forget > > [1]FantasÃa que contrahaze la harpa en la manera de Ludovico That's not a chromatic piece at all - where do you see a chromatic step? Cheers, Ralf Mattes > >G. > >-- > > References > >1

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-17 Thread G. C.
Caro Francesco, Molto bello indeed! I encoded this piece into fronimo today. But... _ |_c___| |_c___| |_e___| |_| |_| On page 18 of 2nd book, first chord third measure c2-c3-e4 this does not sound right. Any suggestions? And ni

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-17 Thread John Mardinly
> initial post asked for tablatures. > Mathias >__ > Gesendet mit der [2]Telekom Mail App > --- Original-Nachricht --- > Von: G. C. > Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works > Datum: 17.12.2017, 11:46 Uhr > An: Liuto

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-17 Thread Edward Martin
WV 997? I was thinking the initial post asked for tablatures. Mathias __ Gesendet mit der [2]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: G. C. Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-17 Thread Seicento/Rainer Luckhardt
...and some more: Claudio Saracini - 2 Toccatas for archlute in "Le musiche", Venice 1614 Rainer __ SEICENTO-Notenversand Rainer Luckhardt Holbeinstrasse 12 D-79312 Emmendingen Tel. ++49/(0)7641 - 932803 Internet: www.seicentomusic.de Am 17.12.2017 um 12:08 schrieb G. C.:

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-17 Thread G. C.
No, D-Leipzig III.11.5 doesn't contain it? G. On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 11:58 AM, [1]mathias.roe...@t-online.de <[2]mathias.roe...@t-online.de> wrote: Betreff: Re: Chromatic lute works Datum: 17.12.2017, 11:57 Uhr An: Baroque Lute Net Is there a contemporary lute t

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-17 Thread mathias.roe...@t-online.de
lute tablature of BWV 997? I was thinking the initial post asked for tablatures. Mathias __ Gesendet mit der [2]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: G. C. Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-17 Thread G. C.
Yes, how could one have forgotten BWV 997 :) Thanks Ed! G. On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Edward Martin <[1]edvihuel...@gmail.com> wrote: Capriccio Chromatico by Pietro Paolo Melij I am surprised nobody listed the fugue in c minor by JS Bach, BWV 997 -- Refer

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-17 Thread Edward Martin
>Da: "Tristan von Neumann" <[4]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> >A: "lutelist Net" <[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> >Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works >Data: dom, dic 17, 2017 02:22 > > Also Spinacino's Ricercar 17 from Vol

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-17 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
> Da: "Tristan von Neumann" > A: "lutelist Net" > Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works > Data: dom, dic 17, 2017 02:22 > > Also Spinacino's Ricercar 17 from Volume 1. > > It's not chromatic per se, but cadences on 12 tones are q

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-17 Thread tribi...@arcetri.astro.it
Also Nicolas Vallet, fantasia mediante. Very beautiful Francesco - Rispondi al messaggio - Da: "Tristan von Neumann" A: "lutelist Net" Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works Data: dom, dic 17, 2017 02:22 Also Spinacino's Ricercar 17

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-16 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Also Spinacino's Ricercar 17 from Volume 1. It's not chromatic per se, but cadences on 12 tones are quite impressive. Am 16.12.2017 um 22:06 schrieb G. C.: I imagine there is not a great number of chromatic lute pieces available. Dowland and Aegidius come to mind, as well as the Phillip

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-16 Thread Tristan von Neumann
"No, let chromatic tunes" Really. No kidding. Am 17.12.2017 um 01:09 schrieb G. C.: Dear Jelma, which ones? G. On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 12:44 AM, Jelma van Amersfoort <[1]jel...@gmail.com> wrote: There are very chromatic lute songs by John Danyel. Jelma -- R

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-16 Thread G. C.
Dear Jelma, which ones? G. On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 12:44 AM, Jelma van Amersfoort <[1]jel...@gmail.com> wrote: There are very chromatic lute songs by John Danyel. Jelma -- References 1. mailto:jel...@gmail.com To get on or off this list see list information at http:/

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-16 Thread Jelma van Amersfoort
There are very chromatic lute songs by John Danyel. Jelma > On 16 Dec 2017, at 22:06, G. C. wrote: > > I imagine there is not a great number of chromatic lute pieces > available. Dowland and Aegidius come to mind, as well as the Phillips > dolorosa pavan. Has someone yet surveyed the avai

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-16 Thread G. C.
Thanks for Hewitt and Picinnini Eugene Castaldi definitely counts :) G. On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 12:24 AM, Braig, Eugene <[1]brai...@osu.edu> wrote: How 'bout the Gregorio Huwett fantasia (the more famous one recorded by Bream, O'Dette, etc.)? (I really like that one.)

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-16 Thread Braig, Eugene
count?) Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of G. C. Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:00 PM To: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works :) an old friend of mine! Specifics please Susan. G. On Sat,

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-16 Thread Tristan von Neumann
I can't find it right now, but one other Gostena Fantasy has some chromatic steps. Also, Gregorius Howet has one with a slightly chromatic theme. In the Donaueschingen Lutebook there are some madrigal intavolations with more extravagant harmonies. Am 16.12.2017 um 22:29 schrieb Miles Dempste

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-16 Thread Susan Sandman
Sorry, I meant Michelangelo Galilei. The piece I tried was Toccata 8. On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 5:59 PM G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: :) an old friend of mine! Specifics please Susan. G. On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 11:56 PM, Susan Sandman <[1][2]susan.sand..

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-16 Thread G. C.
:) an old friend of mine! Specifics please Susan. G. On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 11:56 PM, Susan Sandman <[1]susan.sand...@gmail.com> wrote: Vincenzo Galilei. It's hard, but has delightfully chromatic harmony. On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 5:52 PM G. C. <[2]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote:

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-16 Thread Susan Sandman
Vincenzo Galilei. It's hard, but has delightfully chromatic harmony. On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 5:52 PM G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: And Gesualdo for sure, if there were any Gesualdo pieces available. Kapsberger? -- To get on or off this list see lis

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-16 Thread G. C.
And Gesualdo for sure, if there were any Gesualdo pieces available. Kapsberger? -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-16 Thread G. C.
And lets not forget [1]FantasÃa que contrahaze la harpa en la manera de Ludovico G. -- References 1. https://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg32717.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-16 Thread G. C.
I suppose, Molinaro's own fantasia 12 also qualifies? G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-16 Thread G. C.
Thanks Miles! G. On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Miles Dempster <[1]miles.demps...@gmail.com> wrote: Here's one⦠Fantasia XXV by Gio. Battista dalla Gostena from Intavolatura di Liuto di Simone Molinaro - Libro Primo (1599) Miles > On Dec 16, 2017, at

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-16 Thread Miles Dempster
Here’s one… Fantasia XXV by Gio. Battista dalla Gostena from Intavolatura di Liuto di Simone Molinaro - Libro Primo (1599) Miles > On Dec 16, 2017, at 4:06 PM, G. C. wrote: > > I imagine there is not a great number of chromatic lute pieces > available. Dowland and Aegidius come to