[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-26 Thread Matanya Ophee
At 06:44 AM 8/26/2005, Arthur Ness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I can't remember who attributed that motet >intabulation to a Dutch lutenist. That's not >Zuth, who should not be condemned for a mistake made by a cataloguer. And at the same time he should be congratulated for making other mistak

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-26 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 05:33 PM 8/25/2005, Alain Veylit wrote: >Incidentally, "library science" is the only "science" >in the U.S. that can provide you with faculty status just with a >Master's Degree. And that went straight to some of those poor people's >heads... I know of one other field where one can break into

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-26 Thread Arthur Ness
ejolly" for the correct title "Ode to Melancholy." ajn - Original Message - From: Alain Veylit To: Arthur Ness Cc: Lute Net Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa This

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread Matanya Ophee
At 05:33 PM 8/25/2005, Arthur Ness wrote: wrote: >I think it would be a mistake to cite what are additions and corrections to Zuth's work as a demonstration that his work is poor. (Some of that is really obscure information.) For his time, his Handbuch is quite thorough. No argument. But it

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread Alain Veylit
o." It is one of the very >few iindications that lute might be used during the Mass. Here when the >celebrant walked to the lectern to read the Gospel of the day, the lutenist >would play that Josquin motet intabulation. > >ajn > ----- Original Message - > From:

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread Arthur Ness
hee To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 2:13 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa Arthur Ness Thu, 25 Aug 2005 07:56:03 -0700 >I didn't realize that in addition to being a music hall tenor he was >a comed

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Bone explains: ' Shand was known to the British public as a variety artist - a comedian - who for many years headed the bills with the stars of variety ['Burlesque' I suppose in the US - my comment], Lottie Collins, Gus Elen and Vesta Telley, at the most popular music halls,' Get Bone's book -

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread Matanya Ophee
Arthur Ness Thu, 25 Aug 2005 07:56:03 -0700 >I didn't realize that in addition to being a music hall tenor he was >a comedian >as well. He must have been tremendously popular. It is Zuth in his Handbuch >that says that Shand was an American. I wonder where he got that notion. Same place he got t

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread Matanya Ophee
At 01:05 PM 8/25/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Details pertaining to the lives of both Madame Pratten and Ernest Shand >appear in Stewart Button's 1984 dissertation "The Guitar in England >1800-1924" >(University of Surrey) published by Garland in 1989. > >Shand was the pen name of Ernest Willia

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread Martyn Hodgson
1998): 9-17. Arthur - Original Message - From: Martyn Hodgson To: Arthur Ness ; Lute Net Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:58 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa Dear Arthur, You might have added, by way of curiosity, that Shand

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread PeterD26
Details pertaining to the lives of both Madame Pratten and Ernest Shand appear in Stewart Button's 1984 dissertation "The Guitar in England 1800-1924" (University of Surrey) published by Garland in 1989. Shand was the pen name of Ernest William Watson, born in Hull in 1868. He studied guitar w

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread Arthur Ness
formidible work. His article is in _Soundboard_ 24/3 (1998): 9-17. Arthur - Original Message - From: Martyn Hodgson To: Arthur Ness ; Lute Net Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:58 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa Dear Arthur,

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread Ron Fletcher
Any relation to Jimmy Shand? Scottish band-leader... Ron UK -Original Message- From: Martyn Hodgson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 August 2005 08:59 To: Arthur Ness; Lute Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa Dear Arthur, You might

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Arthur, You might have added, by way of curiosity, that Shand was much more famous in his day as a Music Hall comedian; I believe Bone inherited much of his collection and he writes that Shand never used the guitar in his stage act rgds Martyn Arthur Ness <[EMAIL PROT