[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Arthur, You might have added, by way of curiosity, that Shand was much more famous in his day as a Music Hall comedian; I believe Bone inherited much of his collection and he writes that Shand never used the guitar in his stage act rgds Martyn Arthur Ness [EMAIL

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread Ron Fletcher
Any relation to Jimmy Shand? Scottish band-leader... Ron UK -Original Message- From: Martyn Hodgson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 August 2005 08:59 To: Arthur Ness; Lute Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa Dear Arthur, You might

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread Arthur Ness
24/3 (1998): 9-17. Arthur - Original Message - From: Martyn Hodgson To: Arthur Ness ; Lute Net Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:58 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa Dear Arthur, You might have added, by way

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread PeterD26
Details pertaining to the lives of both Madame Pratten and Ernest Shand appear in Stewart Button's 1984 dissertation The Guitar in England 1800-1924 (University of Surrey) published by Garland in 1989. Shand was the pen name of Ernest William Watson, born in Hull in 1868. He studied guitar

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread Martyn Hodgson
: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:58 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa Dear Arthur, You might have added, by way of curiosity, that Shand was much more famous in his day as a Music Hall comedian; I believe Bone inherited much of his collection

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread Matanya Ophee
Arthur Ness Thu, 25 Aug 2005 07:56:03 -0700 I didn't realize that in addition to being a music hall tenor he was a comedian as well. He must have been tremendously popular. It is Zuth in his Handbuch that says that Shand was an American. I wonder where he got that notion. Same place he got the

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Bone explains: ' Shand was known to the British public as a variety artist - a comedian - who for many years headed the bills with the stars of variety ['Burlesque' I suppose in the US - my comment], Lottie Collins, Gus Elen and Vesta Telley, at the most popular music halls,' Get Bone's book

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread Arthur Ness
25, 2005 2:13 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa Arthur Ness Thu, 25 Aug 2005 07:56:03 -0700 I didn't realize that in addition to being a music hall tenor he was a comedian as well. He must have been tremendously popular. It is Zuth

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread Alain Veylit
motet intabulation. ajn - Original Message - From: Matanya Ophee To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 2:13 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa Arthur Ness Thu, 25 Aug 2005 07:56:03 -0700 I didn't

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Madame Robert Sidney Pratten, Victorian guitar virtuosa

2005-08-25 Thread Matanya Ophee
At 05:33 PM 8/25/2005, Arthur Ness wrote: wrote: I think it would be a mistake to cite what are additions and corrections to Zuth's work as a demonstration that his work is poor. (Some of that is really obscure information.) For his time, his Handbuch is quite thorough. No argument. But it