Hi all,
the online version of the German news-mag "Der Spiegel" has a review of a Sting
concert in Berlin. Apparently many people were quite touched by his
performance, but
it also becomes clear that they had no idea of Dowland or maybe classical music
at all
before. So in this regard I thin
On Oct 24, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Joseph Mayes wrote:
> We can't seem to let the Sting matter rest. Is there some engaging
> reason? Is this all the disgruntled mutterings of one person? Do
> more of us
> feel so affronted by the commercial success of a supposed inferior
> product?
>
> Lets
On Tuesday, Oct 24, 2006, at 12:13 America/Los_Angeles, Joseph Mayes
wrote:
> We can't seem to let the Sting matter rest. Is there some engaging
> reason?
Yes. It may be the most important event to occur in the modern lute
revival.
HP
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We can't seem to let the Sting matter rest. Is there some engaging
reason? Is this all the disgruntled mutterings of one person? Do more of us
feel so affronted by the commercial success of a supposed inferior product?
Lets' get back to lute-related stuff and leave t
In einer eMail vom 24.10.2006 19:36:05 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> Absolutely true, but I doubt that Sting even knew that there were
> early-music singers who fall into yet another category other than operatic.
I think somebody like Sting who had classical trai
On Oct 24, 2006, at 1:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> ...I suppose it would have been not such good PR to say I don't
> sing like Domingo and I also don't sing like those early music
> singers who have tried the last few years to find out how this
> music was sung.
Absolutely true, but I
In einer eMail vom 24.10.2006 18:18:26 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> think Sting simply meant to say that his voice is not classically-trained.
> I don't think he was being insincere; I think he was simply assuming that
> people who sing Dowland have classically-
On Oct 24, 2006, at 11:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ok, then we agree that a "normal voice" does not exist and that any
> voice is
> always influenced by the culture in which it evolved singing the
> music that
> was "normal" in their culture.
Well, I took the phrase "normal voice" to r
In einer eMail vom 24.10.2006 17:20:02 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> I agree with you that those "extraordinary vocalizations" don't just
> spring forth without some kind of tradition behind them. I think
> that for the most part people who sing folk music, rock
On Oct 24, 2006, at 8:16 AM, Anthony Hind wrote:
> ...I would personally doubt whether some Irish folk singers are
> completely untrained. Perhaps it is not a scholarly training, but
> some (not of course the present singer) that I have heard make such
> extraordinary vocalizations I can't think t
On Oct 24, 2006, at 10:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On what did Ray Nurse base this theory ?
I think it was more like a fact. He digs up references for
everything. He mentioned a letter or something where a singer was
described as not being able to sing in the chamber one evening as he
I imagine there have been voice lessons for centuries. After all, to focus
on royalty: I know that as least princesses sang for audiences at dances and
whatnot, and royalty was taught practically everything they did. I'm sure
they didn't learn the songs with no instruction on the singing.
I definit
In einer eMail vom 24.10.2006 15:51:41 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> According to Ray Nurse, at the Baroque Vocal Workshop I attended,
> there were two kinds of singing in the Renaissance: church and
> chamber, often done by the same person.
>
Which one sounded
According to Ray Nurse, at the Baroque Vocal Workshop I attended,
there were two kinds of singing in the Renaissance: church and
chamber, often done by the same person.
On Oct 24, 2006, at 10:23 PM, bill kilpatrick wrote:
> "operatic tenors" to me sounds like he's making a
> distinction betwe
In einer eMail vom 24.10.2006 15:25:30 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> "operatic tenors" to me sounds like he's making a
> distinction between those who are trained to project
> their voices with the aid of their diaphragm - a
> brisk, penetrating, back-of-the-hall-rea
"operatic tenors" to me sounds like he's making a
distinction between those who are trained to project
their voices with the aid of their diaphragm - a
brisk, penetrating, back-of-the-hall-reaching, royal
shakespeare company voice - as opposed to someone
speaking (singing) normally.
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From: Ed Durbrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 3:14 am
Subject: [LUTE] Re: A "normal" voyce ?
>
> On Oct 24, 2006, at 5:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > the URL was wrong it should have been
> >
&
In einer eMail vom 24.10.2006 14:05:31 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> Mark
> I would personally doubt whether some Irish folk singers are
> completely untrained. Perhaps it is not a scholarly training, but
> some (not of course the present singer) that I have he
Le 24 oct. 06 à 10:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
>
> I think it is interesting because her performance uses much less vocal
> technique than sting and if elizabethans were untrained (which was
> most likely not
> the case) then they may have sounded more like this. English folk
> singing ma
In einer eMail vom 24.10.2006 09:19:27 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> Got it. Interesting. I like English folk. I would have changed the
> accompaniment with that style of singing to something more "folky".
> The interesting thing would be to see how people who do
On Oct 24, 2006, at 5:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> the URL was wrong it should have been
>
> http://www.myspace.com/suzannesear
Got it. Interesting. I like English folk. I would have changed the
accompaniment with that style of singing to something more "folky".
The interesting thing wo
shocking! ... someone aught to send round the
hip-constabulary and ruff (geddit?) her up.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> without opening all that Sting thing again, I found
> something that may be of
> interest in the what is a normal voice discussion.
>
> Today Pantagruel got an add
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On Oct 24, 2006, at 5:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> without opening all that Sting thing again, I found something that
> may be of
> interest in the what is a normal voic
It is interesting to listen to this presentation. It has been hypothesized
that Dowland came from Ireland. Listening to Flow My Tears in this version
I really perceive a Celtic flavor I had never noticed before. No culture
sings a sad song so sweetly like the Celts.
Vance Wood.
- Origi
But I can't get it to play.
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From: "Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 4:57 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: A "normal" voyce ?
> There is a minor flaw in the URL, but other
> lutemembers, this girly does
> exi
There is a minor flaw in the URL, but other lutemembers, this girly does
exist. This is the proper address:
http://www.myspace.com/suzannesear
On 10/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> without opening all that Sting thing again, I found something that may be
> of
> int
Hi,
the URL was wrong it should have been
http://www.myspace.com/suzannesear
best wishes
Mark
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