[LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-30 Thread chriswilke
Dan, --- On Fri, 1/29/10, Daniel Winheld dwinh...@comcast.net wrote: Well, Chris, I still advise reading Mimmo Peruffo's web page, The Lute in it's Historical Reality, at least for the information assembled by a truly dedicated lifetime player, researcher, string maker. I've read

[LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-30 Thread Daniel Winheld
(Note that, in addition to his researches into historical strings, he is also one of our leading makers of synthetics!) And thank God for that. I've bought far more type D and Nylgut (and now also have his apparently more gut like type DE copper overspuns on order) for my strange archlute,

[LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-29 Thread Daniel Winheld
Anthony- that's amazing- HIP concerns mattering as lately as the 1920's. I had a customer at the music store yesterday looking for HIP Beethoven; we didn't have anything on hand but at least the Busch Quartet had a sound that seemed closer, but I don't know the details of their equipment. I

[LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-29 Thread Anton Birula
significantly better. Anton --- On Fri, 1/29/10, Daniel Winheld dwinh...@comcast.net wrote: From: Daniel Winheld dwinh...@comcast.net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics? To: Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 5:47 PM Anthony- that's

[LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-29 Thread Franz Mechsner
__ Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu im Auftrag von Anton Birula Gesendet: Fr 29.01.2010 18:06 An: Daniel Winheld Cc: Lutenet Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics? I would say NYLGUT is so far away from gut It is far after nylon

[LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-29 Thread Roman Turovsky
Caveat Emptor. RT - Original Message - From: Franz Mechsner franz.mechs...@northumbria.ac.uk To: Anton Birula image...@yahoo.com Cc: Lutenet lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics

[LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-29 Thread Franz Mechsner
__ Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu im Auftrag von Roman Turovsky Gesendet: Fr 29.01.2010 18:15 An: Anton Birula; Franz Mechsner Cc: Lutenet Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings

[LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-29 Thread Daniel Winheld
You should have warned me forty years ago. Caveat Emptor. RT -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-29 Thread Franz Mechsner
I learned 40 years ago that the violin is the instrument of the devil, because everything is so awfully difficult... no mentioning that there might be other instruments in this class... [1]http://www.andenkengallery.com/images/exploding_dog/drawings/isthish ell.jpg F --

[LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-29 Thread Roman Turovsky
: Lutenet lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:25 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics? __ Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu im Auftrag von Roman Turovsky Gesendet

[LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-29 Thread Daniel Winheld
Dan, Are synthetic strings close to the sound of old guts? Dunno. Are modern guts any closer? Dunno. Let's call the whole thing off. Chris Well, Chris, I still advise reading Mimmo Peruffo's web page, The Lute in it's Historical Reality, at least for the information assembled by a truly

[LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-29 Thread Daniel Shoskes
It's a shame that this point has to be re-made whenever the moral and aural superiority of gut strings and those who use them are trumpeted (sackbutted?) on this list. Let the research and experimentation continue. But, and I emphasize this for lurkers and shy beginners alike, there

[LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-29 Thread Jarosław Lipski
I'll second that! JL - Original Message - From: chriswi...@yahoo.com To: Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Daniel Winheld dwinh...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 6:21 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics? Dan, --- On Fri, 1/29/10

[LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-29 Thread Edward Martin
I have followed this thread with great interest. As most of you know, I have been a user of gut for many years, and I love the sound. Admittedly, I also use synthetics on some instruments. Danny is quite correct, in that we purists should not in any way dissuade people to play in synthetics.

[LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-29 Thread Daniel Winheld
Agree completely. Never meant to sound like the HIP fuzz, and as I mentioned earlier, only two of my instruments are gutted. And as Chris Wilke observed, it's modern gut- how close the the real deal is at least somewhat speculative. Dan - Off to work now. It's a shame that this point has

[LUTE] Re: Objet : Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-29 Thread David van Ooijen
there is a newly released CD by Toyohiko Satoh, on his original lute, .. This new one is music of Lauffensteiner, entitled W.L. Lauffensteiner  a Cantabile Master.   It is on the Nostalgia label,  0901.  It is available from the LGS (David, is it for sale yet?). I recieved the first copy