Weight is a major issue, especially when you're putting 24 of something on one
end of your instrument. So the increased weight of a standard machine tuning
head is usually cited as the reason for not using them on lutes, which are much
lighter than 19th-century guitars. I have never
I do not know the exact weight, but the 8-course lute has 15 pegs, or
should I say, gears. The lute's neck felt as though it was light,
with absolutely no noticeable added weight.
At 12:33 AM 6/22/2010, howard posner wrote:
Weight is a major issue, especially when you're putting 24 of
It seems to me that another reason - beyond the weight of guitar-type machine
tuners - for not using them on lutes would be the space they require. I think
they would require that the tuners be more widely spaced and the peg box
consequently much longer. Though more expensive, the geared
I do not understand what you mean, as they require no more space
that traditional pegs. The lute gears are not pictured, as they
are thinner than the violin pegs one sees.
At 08:17 AM 6/22/2010, Edward Mast wrote:
It seems to me that another reason - beyond the weight of
guitar-type
I'm sorry, Ed - I didn't make myself clear. I was answering a post in which
(if I understood the writer correctly) it was said that the type of geared
tuners found on guitars (NOT the geared pegs we've been discussing) could more
inexpensively be used on lutes. These are what I think take
I like my simple lute pegs, I like the simple non-mechanized 1 to 1
tuning-design of old instruments. perhaps modern guitar-tuning-mechanics are a
result of 19th century perfection...
w.
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Datum: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:17:23 -0400
Von: Edward Mast
I as well like my simple lute pegs as well. These new gears are very
interesting, however!
At 09:16 AM 6/22/2010, wolfgang wiehe wrote:
I like my simple lute pegs, I like the simple non-mechanized 1 to 1
tuning-design of old instruments. perhaps modern
guitar-tuning-mechanics are a result
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Mon, June 21, 2010 3:28:48 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: geared pegs and Dan Larson's lute
I remember when these came out, and have read all the comments to follow on
this thread. I'm not entirely certain of the practical usefulness of this
product unless one would want
] Re: geared pegs and Dan Larson's lute
I remember when these came out, and have read all the comments to follow on
this thread. I'm not entirely certain of the practical usefulness of this
product unless one would want to replace pegs on an existing instrument with
minimal modification
I seem to remember that the geared pegs for violins, cellos etc. are glued in
place to prevent slipping of the peg itself (of course the gears don't slip).
Is this necessary with the lute pegs? If not, what keeps the pegs themselves
(not the gears) from slipping in dry weather?
Ned
On Jun
Yes, they are permanently installed.
ed
At 07:52 AM 6/21/2010, Edward Mast wrote:
I seem to remember that the geared pegs for violins, cellos etc. are
glued in place to prevent slipping of the peg itself (of course the
gears don't slip). Is this necessary with the lute pegs? If not,
what
of
Lute News featured the article.
Ron Andrico
www.mignarda.com
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:08:49 -0500
To: nedma...@aol.com; e...@gamutstrings.com
CC: vidan...@sbcglobal.net; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
From: e...@gamutstrings.com
Subject: [LUTE] Re: geared pegs and Dan Larson's lute
For sure (I think) one of the big advantages to gut is the lack of binding at
the nut. Once you get to the wound synthetic lower strings, binding seems
inevitable. At least on every instrument I've owned.
Ned
On Jun 21, 2010, at 12:38 AM, Edward Martin wrote:
Actually, this instrument is
These do sound like a positive, worthwhile innovation. I'd have to think about
the risks involved with shipping my lute to a maker to have them installed,
though.
Ned
On Jun 20, 2010, at 3:33 PM, David Tayler wrote:
At BFX 2010, I had the opportunity to play Dan Larson's Frey lute.
Well,
I remember when these came out, and have read all the comments to follow on
this thread. I'm not entirely certain of the practical usefulness of this
product unless one would want to replace pegs on an existing instrument with
minimal modification to the instrument.
I seem to recall geared
To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Mon, June 21, 2010 3:28:48 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: geared pegs and Dan Larson's lute
I remember when these came out, and have read all the comments to follow on
this thread. I'm not entirely certain of the practical usefulness of this
product unless
Thanks for the pictures, David!
Do I see a clip-on tuner on the extension in the bfx11 photo?
-- R
On Jun 20, 2010, at 2:33 PM, David Tayler wrote:
At BFX 2010, I had the opportunity to play Dan Larson's Frey lute.
Well, first off, this was a really nice lute, and all gut strung with
some
I don't have geared pegs on my cello, but know a cellist - and a violinist -
who does. They like them a lot. My questions would be:
1) How much would each peg for a lute cost?
2) Would they need to be fitted by a luthier, or could the player do it
him/herself?
3) Assuming a peg with gears
The ones Dan had were small and light.
He was saying 25-35 per peg, I think, in what used to be the dollar.
The taper would have to be similar, to fit the holes, but since the
peg, or let's call it a keg , what the hay, doesn't rotate in the
pegbox holes it does not have to be exact.
dt
At
I saw this lute in Dan Larson's shop yesterday. It is a very, very
nice Frei, and yes, the pegs, or kegs, or whatever you want to call
them, are very nice, very interesting. They are, as DT says, smooth
as butter, and they will never slip, as pegs do. They are plain, but
very attractive..
But isn't there still the problem of the strings sticking on the nut?
Miles
On 2010-06-20, at 9:07 PM, Edward Martin wrote:
I saw this lute in Dan Larson's shop yesterday. It is a very, very
nice Frei, and yes, the pegs, or kegs, or whatever you want to call
them, are very nice, very
It can be on many lutes, but not on this particular nut.
ed
At 08:16 PM 6/20/2010, Miles Dempster wrote:
But isn't there still the problem of the strings sticking on the nut?
Miles
On 2010-06-20, at 9:07 PM, Edward Martin wrote:
I saw this lute in Dan Larson's shop yesterday. It is a
It did not stick on the nut--I think he used a real nut, like a Brazil nut.
d
At 06:23 PM 6/20/2010, you wrote:
It can be on many lutes, but not on this particular nut.
ed
At 08:16 PM 6/20/2010, Miles Dempster wrote:
But isn't there still the problem of the strings sticking on the nut?
Hmmm... nice and oily, and the strings would cut their own grooves...
C.
David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net 6/20/2010 9:55 PM
It did not stick on the nut--I think he used a real nut, like a Brazil
nut.
d
At 06:23 PM 6/20/2010, you wrote:
It can be on many lutes, but not
Actually, this instrument is in all gut, including the treble, and
the strings do not stick on the nut. I think he takes care in the
polishing of it.
At 11:09 PM 6/20/2010, Christopher Stetson wrote:
Hmmm... nice and oily, and the strings would cut their own grooves...
C.
David
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