[LUTE] Re: top string of treble lute and string length

2006-12-22 Thread Edward Martin
You are partially correct. If you have a lute in g, and the mensur could be anywhere fro57 to 64 cm, of course you would vary the string diameter. But, if the instrument is set up correctly and pitched near the top breaking point for the treble string, the diameter will be closely the same.

[LUTE] Re: top string of treble lute and string length

2006-12-21 Thread Bruno Correia
2006/12/20, Edward Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If one has an alto lute in a at 50 cm, or a lute in E at 66 cm, the same treble string will basically work well, if the proportions are correct. Dear Edward, I thought we had to change the diameter of the strings according to the string

[LUTE] Re: top string of treble lute and string length

2006-12-21 Thread Bob Purrenhage
Dear Bruno, The example you give is for two different length lutes being tuned to the same pitch. The short treble lute in the recent discussion is not being tuned to the same pitch as a tenor (something like a g), but rather to a c or d above that. Someone suggested imagining taking a

[LUTE] Re: top string of treble lute and string length

2006-12-20 Thread Benjamin Stehr
Dear Stuart, considering the breaking frequency of gut at 37 cm string length a c#'' on the first string at 440 Hz is the highest note that would safely be possible. So, a c'' seems to be realistic. The other way round 42,0 cm seems to be a better string length for tuning in c'' (allowing to be

[LUTE] Re: top string of treble lute and string length

2006-12-20 Thread Stuart Walsh
Benjamin Stehr wrote: Dear Stuart, considering the breaking frequency of gut at 37 cm string length a c#'' on the first string at 440 Hz is the highest note that would safely be possible. So, a c'' seems to be realistic. The other way round 42,0 cm seems to be a better string length for

[LUTE] Re: top string of treble lute and string length

2006-12-19 Thread Sean Smith
Rereading your note...Just measure from your bridge to 37 centimeters and see what fret it lands on. Maybe an e flat? Sean Sean Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stuart, I always lose count of the apostrophes. Do you mean a C: a tone below the standard descant (D) lute? If so, I

[LUTE] Re: top string of treble lute and string length

2006-12-19 Thread Stuart Walsh
Sean Smith wrote: Rereading your note...Just measure from your bridge to 37 centimeters and see what fret it lands on. Maybe an e flat? Sean Sean, Thanks for your help.But I'm not following you. If I measure from my bridge...? ...you mean on a lute with 60ms string length?

[LUTE] Re: top string of treble lute and string length

2006-12-19 Thread Sean Smith
Here's how I see it, Stuart. In general, if you want to raise the pitch on a given string you have two choices: make the vibrating length shorter or use a string of smaller mass. Since the breaking tension remains constant regardless of length and we tend to tune the highest string

[LUTE] Re: top string of treble lute and string length

2006-12-19 Thread Edward Martin
I am jumping in on this thread. Sean is correct. For the most part, one generally uses the same diameters in viel-tuned lutes, regardless of the length. If one has an alto lute in a at 50 cm, or a lute in E at 66 cm, the same treble string will basically work well, if the proportions are