Re: Continuo, d-minor and meantone

2005-03-11 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear all, this came back with a strange formating, so I send it again. My apologies! Am Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:05:00 -0500 schrieb Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The meantone was likelier in a church setting, because the organ might > have > stilll be tuned that way. The opera had no organ

Re: Continuo, d-minor and meantone

2005-03-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Stephan, If I might interject a practical performance note: whilst some of the solo repertoire may well benefit from a form of meantone temperament (although as Roman points out this is very much a moot point by the mid 18thC), continuo playing in works such as later operas requires ranging a

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2005-03-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
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Re: Continuo, d-minor and meantone

2005-03-11 Thread Roman Turovsky
>> The majority of music was simply out of tune most >> of the time, and badly played too. > Which, by the way, is still true 8^)) > > Francesco Yep, 'fraid so. "Le Dame Stuzzicanti" come to mind.. RT -- http://polyhymnion.org/torban To get on or off this list see list

RE: Continuo, d-minor and meantone

2005-03-11 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> The majority of music was simply out of tune most > of the time, and badly played too. Which, by the way, is still true 8^)) Francesco To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: Continuo, d-minor and meantone

2005-03-11 Thread Roman Turovsky
>>> The meantone was likelier in a church setting, because the organ might >>> have >>> stilll be tuned that way. The opera had no organ, therefore no meantone. >>> By >>> 1700 opera would modulate sufficiently to forget about meantone. >> From the semitone entry in the New Grove, copied from >> ht

Re: Continuo, d-minor and meantone

2005-03-11 Thread Roman Turovsky
>> The meantone was likelier in a church setting, because the organ might >> have >> stilll be tuned that way. The opera had no organ, therefore no meantone. >> By >> 1700 opera would modulate sufficiently to forget about meantone. > From the semitone entry in the New Grove, copied from > http://ww

Re: Continuo, d-minor and meantone

2005-03-11 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:05:00 -0500 schrieb Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The meantone was likelier in a church setting, because the organ might > have > stilll be tuned that way. The opera had no organ, therefore no meantone. > By > 1700 opera would modulate sufficiently to forget ab

Re: Continuo, d-minor and meantone

2005-03-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
I always thought that the problems are: 1. to get the minor third between the first and second/fourth and fifth courses into the tuning system and 2. doubling A-d-f in the high octave means doubling the trouble with tastinis and eliminating the possibility of slanting the f

Re: Continuo, d-minor and meantone

2005-03-10 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am Thu, 10 Mar 2005 07:35:19 -0500 schrieb Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> I always thought that the problems are: >>> 1. to get the minor third between the first and second/fourth and fifth >>> courses into the tuning system and >>> 2. doubling A-d-f in the high octave means doubling th

Re: Continuo, d-minor and meantone

2005-03-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
>> I always thought that the problems are: >> 1. to get the minor third between the first and second/fourth and fifth >> courses into the tuning system and >> 2. doubling A-d-f in the high octave means doubling the trouble with >> tastinis and eliminating the possibility of slanting the frets. >> A

Re: Continuo, d-minor and meantone

2005-03-10 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am Wed, 09 Mar 2005 11:04:14 +0100 schrieb Stephan Olbertz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I always thought that the problems are: > 1. to get the minor third between the first and second/fourth and fifth > courses into the tuning system and > 2. doubling A-d-f in the high octave means doubling the tro