Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: RE: Gutsy stories

2005-02-02 Thread Jon Murphy
Thomas, For once I was too brief - I thought I'd mentioned the surviving fixed pitch instruments, but I see I didn't (oops, that was what I meant by comparative working). As to the carry I'd say it was based less on hearing habits than actual auditory phenomena. We know that low frequencies

Re: Antwort: RE: Gutsy stories

2005-02-01 Thread Jon Murphy
Subject: Antwort: RE: Gutsy stories Dear Rob the implication of smaller holes in the bridge would be either the old lutenists used a higher tension than we do or the strings they used would be made of a different material. I've read somewhere in an article guessing the gut strings would

Antwort: Re: Antwort: RE: Gutsy stories

2005-02-01 Thread thomas . schall
on hearing habits formed in the romantic period. Thomas Jon Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] am 01.02.2005 10:06:27 An:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kopie: Thema: Re: Antwort: RE: Gutsy stories Thomas, As David said, high tension = thick string, given a pitch. But I yet question

Re: Gutsy stories

2005-02-01 Thread Jon Murphy
Dear Martin, Like you I don't knot the strings at the peg, but in 55 years of stringing guitars I've found that back looping the string around the peg puts a bit of friction on it without having a full tension crossover that can cut a string. By back looping I mean bringing the bitter end

Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: RE: Gutsy stories

2005-02-01 Thread chriswilke
@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 3:26 AM Subject: Antwort: RE: Gutsy stories Dear Rob the implication of smaller holes in the bridge would be either the old lutenists used a higher tension than we do or the strings they used would be made of a different material. I've

Antwort: RE: Gutsy stories

2005-01-31 Thread thomas . schall
: Thema: RE: Gutsy stories A luthier once told me that many of the original bridge string holes are too small for the diameters we choose for 'modern' gut. Is this true, and if so what are the implications? Also, many luthiers drill bridge holes on their instruments for wound synthetic strings

Re: Antwort: RE: Gutsy stories

2005-01-31 Thread LGS-Europe
tensions including Mersenne on my web site: Http://home.planet.nl/~d.v.ooijen/david/ David - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 9:26 AM Subject: Antwort: RE: Gutsy stories Dear Rob the implication of smaller holes

Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: RE: Gutsy stories

2005-01-31 Thread thomas . schall
should tend to leave more significant traces than organic material like gut. Best wishes Thomas Michael Thames [EMAIL PROTECTED] am 31.01.2005 17:02:20 An:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kopie: Thema: Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: RE: Gutsy stories Thomas, I think the German Baroque

RE: Gutsy stories

2005-01-30 Thread Rob MacKillop
To: Michael Thames; LGS-Europe; Lute net; Edward Martin Subject: Re: Gutsy stories No argument here. The extended bass length is precisely for that purpose...with the longer basses, the required strings will necessarily require a smaller string diameter. I am uncertain if it gives more volume

Re: Gutsy stories

2005-01-30 Thread Jon Murphy
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 3:20 AM Subject: RE: Gutsy stories A luthier once told me that many of the original bridge string holes are too small for the diameters we choose for 'modern' gut. Is this true, and if so what are the implications? Also, many luthiers drill bridge holes

RE: Gutsy stories

2005-01-30 Thread Rob MacKillop
January 2005 08:38 To: 'Lute net'; Rob MacKillop Subject: Re: Gutsy stories Rob, Widening a hole is easy, narrowing it is tough. I note that your email domain is rmguitar. If your background is guitar you should realize that the strings pass over a saddle on your guitar, but go directly from

Re: Gutsy stories

2005-01-30 Thread Martin Shepherd
] Sent: 29 January 2005 20:20 To: Michael Thames; LGS-Europe; Lute net; Edward Martin Subject: Re: Gutsy stories No argument here. The extended bass length is precisely for that purpose...with the longer basses, the required strings will necessarily require a smaller string diameter. I am

RE: Gutsy stories

2005-01-30 Thread Rob MacKillop
Interesting, Martin. Thanks for that. It is an interesting problem which will probably never be resolved. Rob To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Gutsy stories

2005-01-29 Thread LGS-Europe
I've put my experiences of the past year and a half of playing on gut strings in an article on my website. It's called 'Gut strings, a work in progress' and is on my homepage: Http://home.planet.nl/~d.v.ooijen/david. David * David van Ooijen [EMAIL

Re: Gutsy stories

2005-01-29 Thread Edward Martin
David, I read this article, your work in progress, and I can thank you for publishing it. Your experiences are very similar to mine. I have 1 lute in synthetic strings, where the others are all in gut, and I love the gut sound as well. It is too hard to resort back to the synthetics.