Thank you David and Mat,
I was familiar with divisions but hadn't realized that diminutions was
synonymous. And even with divisions I had a problem separating them from
ornamentation, such as shakes, etc. But as I think of it (and for those
who think I state the obvious, bear with me, I'm
Hi Jon,
...are
the diminutions improvisations about the basic melody, or are they
just a
term for music notated with more than one note for the tactus
In the sense we're talking about (that of Elizabethan divisions), I
would say divisions are improvisions over the basic harmony, which
Vance,
I have to agree with you, in part. First the matter of thumb in or out.
There I am out of my area, I don't know what you are speaking of in
diminutions (I would have thought of that as a matter of volume or speed).
But in my limited experience I have found a better sound with thumb in
Jon Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
There I am out of my area, I don't know what you are speaking of in
diminutions (I would have thought of that as a matter of volume or speed).
Diminuitions, or divisions, is a kind of ornamenting a melodic line by
splitting or dividing it into rows of
On Tuesday, February 24, 2004, at 03:23 AM, Jon Murphy wrote:
...I don't know what you are speaking of in
diminutions (I would have thought of that as a matter of volume or
speed).
Diminutions are groups of notes that represent a single beat. If you
take a basic count of one-two-three-four
Gentlemen,
With all due respect, and with knowledge that I too often use personal
examples, may I say that my lady took a picture on our new digital camera
where I am definitely thumb in. I wasn't playing, although the lute was in
my lap. I was smoking a cigarette before starting a song. As the
The only point here is that the paintings of the lutenists of the
Renaissance, and other modern classical times, must be posed rather than
live play - or else the painters had perfect memories for their subjects.
Who is to say whether the musician was playing a run, or a chord, or just
tuning
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Steffen Gliese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: The likeness of John Dowland
Gentlemen,
With all due respect, and with knowledge that I too often use personal
examples, may I say that my lady took a picture on our new digital camera
to have found a likeness of John Dowland on the title page of a
book of madrigals composed by Melchior Borhgrevinck and published in 1605 in
Copenhagen. The argument put forward seemed pretty good, although I am no
academic. I have not seen it referred to in the Lute Society Newsletter
What IS interesting, is the fact that the lute player is playing thumb out.
It is NOT PARTICULARLY interesting. The iconographic ratio of IN/OUT is
50/50.
RT
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Roman M. Turovsky
http://turovsky.org
http://polyhymnion.org
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Roman Turovsky wrote:
What IS interesting, is the fact that the lute player is playing thumb out.
It is NOT PARTICULARLY interesting. The iconographic ratio of IN/OUT is
50/50.
Really?! Could you elaborate that? You have a statistical analysis?
Very interesting, indeed!
Subject: Re: The likeness of John Dowland
What IS interesting, is the fact that the lute player is playing thumb
out.
It is NOT PARTICULARLY interesting. The iconographic ratio of IN/OUT is
50/50.
RT
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Roman M. Turovsky
http://turovsky.org
http://polyhymnion.org
Arto Wikla wrote:
What IS interesting, is the fact that the lute player is playing thumb out.
It is NOT PARTICULARLY interesting. The iconographic ratio of IN/OUT is
50/50.
Really?! Could you elaborate that? You have a statistical analysis?
Very interesting, indeed! Could you share
Henriksen
claimed to have found a likeness of John Dowland on the title page of a
book of madrigals composed by Melchior Borhgrevinck and published in 1605 in
Copenhagen. The argument put forward seemed pretty good, although I am no
academic. I have not seen it referred to in the Lute Society
Dear lute experts!
I am curious to know what the view of the lute fraternity is to the article
about Dowland that appeared in the Journal of the American Lute Society 1997
(which only arrived last year). This was the article where Olav Chris Henriksen
claimed to have found a likeness of John
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