Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-17 Thread Roman Turovsky
>> Arto, I am honored by the effort and energy you have put into your research. >> RT >> __ >>> lappish lutenist or something like that, see >>> http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/sautsekki.jpg > > There is more enlightment on the aforementioned daguerrotype: > In the middle of the

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-17 Thread Arto Wikla
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Roman Turovsky wrote: > Arto, I am honored by the effort and energy you have put into your research. > RT > __ > > lappish lutenist or something like that, see > > http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/sautsekki.jpg There is more enlightment on the aforementioned

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-17 Thread Roman Turovsky
Arto, I am honored by the effort and energy you have put into your research. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv >> Hållbus Totte Mattson does pagan scandinavian folk-rock on a 13-course >> baroque lute, but I wouldn't think it advisable to draw a conclusion >> of a Lapp

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-17 Thread Arto Wikla
On Tuesday 14 December 2004 17:28, Roman Turovsky wrote: > Hålbus Totte Mattson does pagan scandinavian folk-rock on a 13-course > baroque lute, but I wouldn't think it advisable to draw a conclusion > of a Lappish "lutenism" from this. There seems to be an old daguerrotype that propably represe

Re: Vihuela,charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related,maybe

2004-12-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Alain, I have listened to the Kaky Kings CDs, that I found very interesting; I found her technique very similar to Michael Hedges play (Aerial boundaries) Paolo Declich > You all got it all wrong: The difference between a vihuela and a > charango is the same as that between a piano and

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-16 Thread Jon Murphy
osinfiorini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 7:40 PM Subject: Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe > > i found this thought brilliant: > > &g

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-15 Thread rosinfiorini
i found this thought brilliant: > > i read recently that the process of history really got > > underway when mirrors became affordable to everyone. > > until then it was impossible - literally - to properly > > see one'self as anything distinctly different. By chance I red recently in this book

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-15 Thread bill kilpatrick
and so ... with the icy blast of rejection resounding in his neatly combed, brand new casa armonica, the plucky little vihuela de mano retraced his steps back to the nina, pinta and santa maria. "'vihuelita' ..." the common little chordophone mused as he scampered up the gangway and into the arms

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-14 Thread Antonio Corona
Dear Alain, Howard, Roman and Stephen, Thanks ever so much for your comments. I will now rest my case. With my best wishes for the season for all the list, Antonio ___ Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messe

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-14 Thread Howard Posner
bill kilpatrick wrote: > any of the > variations listed in your preceding letter (tunings, > backing material, no. of courses, etc.) would > naturally be of intense interest to him - no more than > any other "variation" he might have encountered in his > experience - but of secondary importance to

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-14 Thread Alain Veylit
You all got it all wrong: The difference between a vihuela and a charango is the same as that between a piano and an organ transplant. What beats me is why this thread is going on, while we could be talking about the Cuban lute - as heard on the Buena Vista Club famous CD - which at least as a

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-14 Thread Antonio Corona
--- bill kilpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > you say "potato" - i say "potato" ... let's call > the > whole thing off. > > regards - bill > Dear Bill, I shall be pleased to oblige. Best regards, Antonio ___

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-14 Thread Roman Turovsky
> you may grow weary of me "banging on" about this but > your knowledge on the subject is very interesting to > me. > > the music played on the charango, its function in the > music and the variation of technique and material used > in its construction are as different and individual as > the luth

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-13 Thread Antonio Corona
Dear bill, Some final thoughts on this matter. Regarding the name applied to the vihuela by the Quechua Indians, I should like to quote what Robert Stevenson has to say in this respect: "So largely did the drum idea loom that when the Spaniards introduced the guitarra and the vihuela the Quechua

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-13 Thread bill kilpatrick
dear antonio - you may grow weary of me "banging on" about this but your knowledge on the subject is very interesting to me. the music played on the charango, its function in the music and the variation of technique and material used in its construction are as different and individual as the luth

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-13 Thread Jon Murphy
Bill, I commend you on your manners, and I'll not quarrel with Antonio's history of the names and the language of the instruments of South America. But as an outside source I'll just say "bullshit". Parallel development of anything is both possible and likely, and particularly of musical instrume

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-13 Thread bill kilpatrick
dear antonio - thank you very much for your considerate and informative reply. what's needed here is a little imagination and i don't think historians are willing to inch themselves that far out on to the plank. we have a shipwrecked sailor with some carpentry skills who makes a stringed instru

Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-12 Thread Antonio Corona
Dear Bill, How right you are. In the remote case that the "Historias de la Conquista del Mayab" proved to be genuine, I would require more evidence than what this text alone tells to consider that there might be a relationship between the vihuela and the charango. There are certain statements in t