Re: [patch] more signals

2003-07-04 Thread Alfredo Braunstein
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > (And for this I find signals more approp than LFUNS) What about the patch I've sent (at the top of this thread)? Alfredo

Re: Newest CVS build failure

2003-07-04 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 12:48:53PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 11:59:51AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > | > | Dependencies with the rest of LyX which I want to avoid. > | > | (Not just "Lsstream.h" but "LString.h

Re: Newest CVS build failure

2003-07-04 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Kayvan A. Sylvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | I went ahead and installed gcc-2.96 on my old Redhat system (built | from the source RPM) and all is well with the compiles again, except | that I got the following build failure on the lyx-qt binary: Is the qt lib also compiled with gcc-2.96? --

[PATCHES] some support for Qt/Mac

2003-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
I plan to commit soon the following series of patches to the 1.3.x branch and port them to HEAD. I just send them for comments, but I do not think they will cause big problems. macboost.diff: avoid some template generation problems. This may be a temporary solution that will be removed when gcc

Re: [PATCHES] some support for Qt/Mac

2003-07-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 11:30:47AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > lyx-qt.patch: the type1 fonts for symbols like sum. There is special > code for some fonts in the normal version, and it seems that it has to > be replaced with other special code for OS X (the win32 port seems to > need

Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Dear list, I forward this message from Ruurd Reitsma about whether we want to allow a port of LyX to Qt/Win non commercial edition. Some context: Ruurd would like us to distribute this port (the binaries for now), but this is only possible if we change our license to explicitly allow for linking

Re: [PATCHES] some support for Qt/Mac

2003-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 11:30:47AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Andre> wrote: >> lyx-qt.patch: the type1 fonts for symbols like sum. There is >> special code for some fonts in the normal version, and it seems >> that it has to be rep

Re: [PATCHES] some support for Qt/Mac

2003-07-04 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | I plan to commit soon the following series of patches to the 1.3.x | branch and port them to HEAD. I just send them for comments, but I do | not think they will cause big problems. | | macboost.diff: avoid some template generation problems. This

Re: [PATCHES] some support for Qt/Mac

2003-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | I Lars> plan to commit soon the following series of patches to the 1.3.x Lars> | branch and port them to HEAD. I just send them for comments, Lars> but I do | not think they wil

Re: [PATCHES] some support for Qt/Mac

2003-07-04 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | I | Lars> plan to commit soon the following series of patches to the 1.3.x | Lars> | branch and port them to HEAD. I just

Re: [PATCHES] some support for Qt/Mac

2003-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> I think we should look harder at creating separate configure Lars> scripts for the frontends... Yes, this is one of the things that I'd like to do in chemnitz. However, I am not sure how it could help the situation. Qt/X11 and

Re: [PATCHES] some support for Qt/Mac

2003-07-04 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Such a situation could also happen with gtk (think gtk/win32 or | gtk/fbdev). How are we going to discover whether X11 is needed by some | toolkit library? Having the user specify that looks like a reasonable | choice for now. Try to link a small

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 11:37:37AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Lars is not sure that he agrees with such a change, since we may not > want to allow the use of LyX under a non-free toolkit and OS (Lars, > correct me if I'm wrong). I am not sure where I stand myself. Same for me. Am I corr

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread Edwin Leuven
perhaps unsurprisingly i am all for it i don't really see a difference between xforms before it was open and qt-win, yet there is an exception for xforms in the license then a practical reason that concerns myself is that i moved to paris, and at the institute where i am based everything is win

Re: [PATCHES] some support for Qt/Mac

2003-07-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 11:39:37AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > What do you mean by OK? Do you mean that the normal LyX will still > produce correct symbols with this change? No. I mean 'I know the patch and I've heard it fixes the problem' Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom

Re: [PATCHES] some support for Qt/Mac

2003-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars> Such a situation could also happen with gtk (think gtk/win32 or Lars> | gtk/fbdev). How are we going to discover whether X11 is needed Lars> by some | toolkit library? Hav

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:23:45PM +0200, Edwin Leuven wrote: > perhaps unsurprisingly i am all for it > > i don't really see a difference between xforms before it was open and qt-win, > yet there is an exception for xforms in the license The legal difference is that the xforms exceptions has be

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Edwin" == Edwin Leuven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Edwin> perhaps unsurprisingly i am all for it i don't really see a Edwin> difference between xforms before it was open and qt-win, yet Edwin> there is an exception for xforms in the license The xforms license was rather: ``do whatever you

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread Edwin Leuven
On Fri Jul 4 2003 12:25, Andre Poenitz wrote: > The legal difference is that the xforms exceptions has been in there all > the time and all code was contributed to GPL + xforms exception, not to > GPL + Qt exception. i wasn't referring to the legal difference but to the (lack of a) moral differen

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> Am I correct in assuming that the 'problem' is the Andre> _distribution_ of the pre-compiled binary but not creating and Andre> using such a thing privately? Andre> If not, ignore the rest of this post. I am not sure that one is a

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:37:52PM +0200, Edwin Leuven wrote: > On Fri Jul 4 2003 12:25, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > The legal difference is that the xforms exceptions has been in there all > > the time and all code was contributed to GPL + xforms exception, not to > > GPL + Qt exception. > > i wasn'

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:49:39PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Andre> Am I correct in assuming that the 'problem' is the > Andre> _distribution_ of the pre-compiled binary but not creating and > Andre> using such a thing priva

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:23:45PM +0200, Edwin Leuven wrote: > perhaps unsurprisingly i am all for it Me too. There is a huge market for LyX on Win32 and we currently have serious barriers to adoption. LyX alone is not likely to cause any significant migration from Windows to Linux or another f

Re: [PATCHES] some support for Qt/Mac

2003-07-04 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> Such a situation could also happen with gtk (think gtk/win32 or | Lars> | gtk/fbdev). How are we going to discove

Re: [Patch] Re: Preamble dialog

2003-07-04 Thread Rob Lahaye
John Levon wrote: > On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 03:04:09PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > >>>Rob Lahaye wrote: >>>If allright, then please apply the patch. >> >>Is fine with me. >> >>Others? > > Yes, fine. Then can someone apply the patch? Thanks. Rob.

Re: [patch] simplify TextInset

2003-07-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 06:04:33PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 04:32:45PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > | > It will have to wait a few days until my broadband is activated ... > | > | Hm... anybody else interested? > >

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:49:39PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Andre> wrote: >> > "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Andre> Am I correct in assuming that the 'problem' is the Andre> _distribution_ of the pr

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 02:11:44PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Andre> Even if so, this would not be a problem. LyX still works with > Andre> xforms, doesn't it. In this case the Qt code may be dead > Andre> ballast, but nobody forbids me to write 'void foo() {} int > Andre> main() {}' whic

RE: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread Leuven, E.
who says (c) is unfeasible, it all depends on who agrees edwin -Original Message- From: Andre Poenitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 04/07/2003 14:29 To: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Cc: LyX Mechanics; Ruurd Reitsma; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread larry
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 11:37:37AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Some context: Ruurd would like us to distribute this port (the binaries for > now), but this is only possible if we change our license to explicitly allow > for linking against Qt non-commercial binary-only version. Unless I'

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 10:26:03AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > And it provides another example of the GPL failing to meet the requirements of > evolving software applications -- more grist for those critical of open source. Yes, the GPL has problems. The GPL is not an ideal license in many

Re: Do we want a native Qt/win port?

2003-07-04 Thread larry
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 01:16:31AM +0100, John Levon wrote: > > > The problem here is not with the GPL, but with the Troll Tech business model and > > licensing practices, which puts open source applications under the GPL in this > > untenable position if developers wish to release Windows version

Re: Newest CVS build failure

2003-07-04 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 10:09:36AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > "Kayvan A. Sylvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | I went ahead and installed gcc-2.96 on my old Redhat system (built > | from the source RPM) and all is well with the compiles again, except > | that I got the following build