Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-14 Thread Michael Gerz
Bo Peng schrieb: I'd prefer a name that does not look like an environment name, Good idea! like "--Separator--" or "--Splitter--". Either is fine to me, so I can go with --Separator--. Michael, what do you think? Me? Both is fine to me. But I also like "-- Environment Separator --". Mich

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-13 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Enrico Forestieri wrote: > Yes, I think so. Please, let me know what you think about the updated > patch using the brilliant solution by JMarc. I like it. Put it in. Jürgen

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-13 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 06:26:45PM +0200, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > Bo Peng wrote: > > > Patch submitted, please test or read user's guide, section 3.4.4. > > Enrico, you might use this Split environment instead of the clumsy ERT in > the IEEEtran template (last section). Yes, I think so. P

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-13 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Bo Peng wrote: > Patch submitted, please test or read user's guide, section 3.4.4. Enrico, you might use this Split environment instead of the clumsy ERT in the IEEEtran template (last section). Jürgen

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-13 Thread Bo Peng
Either is fine to me, so I can go with --Separator--. Patch submitted, please test or read user's guide, section 3.4.4. I did not wait longer because lyx2lyx was not usable due to a bug introduced by my previous patch. Cheers, Bo

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-13 Thread Bo Peng
I'd prefer a name that does not look like an environment name, Good idea! like "--Separator--" or "--Splitter--". Either is fine to me, so I can go with --Separator--. Michael, what do you think? Bo

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-13 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "José" == José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: José> Now a small question, do we want to call it SplitLayout? I'd prefer a name that does not look like an environment name, like "--Separator--" or "--Splitter--". JMarc

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-12 Thread Michael Gerz
Bo Peng schrieb: Please give it a day to hear other suggestion tomorrow commit the most voted version. :-) OK. SplitEnvironment, +1 +1 Michael

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-12 Thread Bo Peng
Please give it a day to hear other suggestion tomorrow commit the most voted version. :-) OK. SplitEnvironment, +1 Because we call the topleft dropbox "the Environment box". Bo

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-12 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 18:51:33 Bo Peng wrote: > I am fine with SplitEnvironment. I choose layout because it is shorter. > > Bo Please give it a day to hear other suggestion tomorrow commit the most voted version. :-) -- José Abílio

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-12 Thread Bo Peng
Now a small question, do we want to call it SplitLayout? I am fine with SplitEnvironment. I choose layout because it is shorter. Bo

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-12 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 18:18:24 Bo Peng wrote: > > I will let Jose decide on this. > > Jose, have you decided on this one? Can SplitLayout go in? What follows is my rationale to approve this feature. As I have expressed my earlier concerns in the thread I hope that this feature does not become

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-12 Thread Bo Peng
I will let Jose decide on this. Jose, have you decided on this one? Can SplitLayout go in? Bo

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-09 Thread Bo Peng
On 6/9/07, Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 10:49:13AM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: ... > +def revert_splitlayout(document): > +r''' Revert SplitLayout to a lyx node > +From That would be 'note' Will be corrected when applied. Thanks. Bo

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-09 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 10:49:13AM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: ... > +def revert_splitlayout(document): > +r''' Revert SplitLayout to a lyx node > +From That would be 'note' ... - Martin

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-09 Thread Richard Heck
Bo Peng wrote: Herbert> The current behaviour is easy! But not so easy for lyx newbies. The question is: what to insert that do not show up in the screen output (better latex output), yet split the environment? I remember that it took me 10 minutes to figure that out a few years ago. And, as I'v

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-09 Thread Bo Peng
I prefer normalsize roman font and red (like beamer pause/endFrame) or blue (like pagebreak). That will be the attached, which has the following style entry: Style SplitLayout KeepEmpty 1 MarginDynamic LatexType Paragraph

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Bo Peng wrote: > I prefer a smaller font so I used typewriter, Tiny, with color latex. I prefer normalsize roman font and red (like beamer pause/endFrame) or blue (like pagebreak). > The style name is more difficult to decide. > > End environment is appropriate because another type of environmen

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-08 Thread Bo Peng
The attached patch adds SplitLayout environment to a few layout/inc files that will end up in almost all layouts. I see from this thread that most people like to have this in. Attached is an updated patch. I put this layout to stdlayout.inc so that it will show up in almost all layouts. The onl

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-08 Thread Bo Peng
LeftMargin"xxx" I also dislike this because this makes it impossible to see the environment depth of this layout. Cheers, Bo

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-08 Thread Bo Peng
Style "End Environment" CopyStyle Standard KeepEmpty 1 LeftMargin"xxx" LabelType Static LabelString "--End environment--" LabelFont Series Bold

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-08 Thread Herbert Voss
Bo Peng wrote: >> Herbert> The current behaviour is easy! > > But not so easy for lyx newbies. The question is: what to insert that > do not show up in the screen output (better latex output), yet split > the environment? I remember that it took me 10 minutes to figure that > out a few years ago.

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-08 Thread Bo Peng
OK, I am fed up about this whining "people do not like my features, they do not like me". It sounds like Friday, doesn't it. :-) It is quite OK that we have different opinions, and it is OK to me that my proposal is rejected by the majority. Although I respect your (and Jose's) worry about futu

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-08 Thread Bo Peng
Herbert> The current behaviour is easy! But not so easy for lyx newbies. The question is: what to insert that do not show up in the screen output (better latex output), yet split the environment? I remember that it took me 10 minutes to figure that out a few years ago. Cheers, Bo

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I agree with Jean-Marc on this one. If the intention is to split an >> environment, the tool used should visually express that. Herbert> The current behaviour is easy! I think so too. JMarc

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-08 Thread Herbert Voss
Martin Vermeer wrote: >>> I would advise against that. People will use it as a word-like "put >>> multiple cariage return to do my page layout" feature and then >>> complain that it does not show on screen. >> two major facts: >> >> 1. TeX knows no space ... it is used to split words >> 2. TeX kn

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert> it is not _easily_ possible to get more than one empty line Herbert> without this layout. After return you are in standard layout Herbert> mode! If you want another empty line you have to choose again Herbert> standard (empty).

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-08 Thread Herbert Voss
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Herbert> two major facts: > > Herbert> 1. TeX knows no space ... it is used to split words 2. TeX > Herbert> knows no empty lines ... it is used to split paragraphs > > Herbert> If you do not know these

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-08 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:22:44 +0200 Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > >> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >>> what you need is nothing else than an empty line inside LyX and > >>> this is pretty easy with > >>> > >>> Style "Standa

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert> two major facts: Herbert> 1. TeX knows no space ... it is used to split words 2. TeX Herbert> knows no empty lines ... it is used to split paragraphs Herbert> If you do not know these facts, you cannot understand TeX and Herber

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-08 Thread Herbert Voss
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> what you need is nothing else than an empty line inside LyX and >>> this is pretty easy with >>> >>> Style "Standard(Keep)" CopyStyle Standard KeepEmpty 1 End >>> >>> in stdclass.inc > > Andre> Good idea

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> what you need is nothing else than an empty line inside LyX and >> this is pretty easy with >> >> Style "Standard(Keep)" CopyStyle Standard KeepEmpty 1 End >> >> in stdclass.inc Andre> Good idea. Andre> Jose': Ok to prepare a patch

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-08 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 09:25:07AM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: > Bo Peng wrote: > > I can not believe that I am hitting a second WONTFIX in two days, but > > this is likely the fate of this patch. > > > > The attached patch adds SplitLayout environment to a few layout/inc > > files that will end up

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Bo" == Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bo> I can not believe that I am hitting a second WONTFIX in two days, Bo> but this is likely the fate of this patch. Bo> The patch also contains UserGuide.lyx and lyx2lyx changes. If you Bo> like it, please make your voice heard. I need four posi

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-08 Thread Herbert Voss
Bo Peng wrote: > I can not believe that I am hitting a second WONTFIX in two days, but > this is likely the fate of this patch. > > The attached patch adds SplitLayout environment to a few layout/inc > files that will end up in almost all layouts. This environment does > not output anything but en

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-07 Thread Richard Heck
Martin Vermeer wrote: On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 09:34:28PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: I need four positive votes to outnumber our future-oriented masters (who consider this as a useless ugly hack). I like it. And the future work needed to get to that "box-based" solution will be substantial.

Re: [PATCH] 2697: SplitLayout environment.

2007-06-07 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 09:34:28PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: > I can not believe that I am hitting a second WONTFIX in two days, but > this is likely the fate of this patch. > > The attached patch adds SplitLayout environment to a few layout/inc > files that will end up in almost all layouts. This env