Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-08 Thread Uwe Stöhr
The phantom feature is a math feature No, \phantom, \vphantom and \hphantom are general (plain TeX) commands, which also work outside mathed (I use them from time to time). I know and use them often e.g. also in the EmbeddedObjects manual. But the suport for these comands is at the moment

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-08 Thread Uwe Stöhr
>> The phantom feature is a math feature > > No, \phantom, \vphantom and \hphantom are general (plain TeX) commands, which > also work outside mathed (I use them from time to time). I know and use them often e.g. also in the EmbeddedObjects manual. But the suport for these comands is at the

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like this phantom feature a lot myself, but I think it qualifies as expert feature. I am not sure it belongs to the toolbar, but I do not oppose it. The phantom feature is a math feature so it should be accessible via the math toolbar. The math toolbar

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jürgen Spitzmüller) writes: The phantom feature is a math feature No, \phantom, \vphantom and \hphantom are general (plain TeX) commands, which also work outside mathed (I use them from time to time). I never thought about that... But of course you are right. JMarc

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: I never thought about that... But of course you are right. I think ui-wise, phantoms should be implemented in a forthcoming InsetSpace dialog (in Texted). Jürgen

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Helge Hafting
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: I never thought about that... But of course you are right. I think ui-wise, phantoms should be implemented in a forthcoming InsetSpace dialog (in Texted). Good idea. A dialog like: _ short space _ interword space _ enskip _

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jürgen Spitzmüller) writes: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: I never thought about that... But of course you are right. I think ui-wise, phantoms should be implemented in a forthcoming InsetSpace dialog (in Texted). Where would you put the text? JMarc

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jürgen Spitzmüller) writes: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Where would you put the text? Like Helge outlined. The dialog would include a combo with all the predefined spaces (enspace etc.), then custom for a length (\hspace) and a widget for text (Space in the length of

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Where would you put the text? Like Helge outlined. The dialog would include a combo with all the predefined spaces (enspace etc.), then custom for a length (\hspace) and a widget for text (Space in the length of the following string). Jürgen

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: This is not good. The text should be any possible Text Inset (even a font change would make the metrics bad). Then we need Tommaso's input widget (or a collapsable). Jürgen

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jürgen Spitzmüller) writes: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: This is not good. The text should be any possible Text Inset (even a font change would make the metrics bad). Then we need Tommaso's input widget (or a collapsable). A collapsable separate from the space inset would

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 08:40:19AM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Uwe Stöhr wrote: I like this phantom feature a lot myself, but I think it qualifies as expert feature. I am not sure it belongs to the toolbar, but I do not oppose it. The phantom feature is a math feature No,

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I like this phantom feature a lot myself, but I think it qualifies as >> expert feature. I am not sure it belongs to the toolbar, but I do not >> oppose it. > > The phantom feature is a math feature so it should be accessible via the > math toolbar. The

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jürgen Spitzmüller) writes: >> The phantom feature is a math feature > > No, \phantom, \vphantom and \hphantom are general (plain TeX) commands, which > also work outside mathed (I use them from time to time). I never thought about that... But of course you are right. JMarc

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > I never thought about that... But of course you are right. I think ui-wise, phantoms should be implemented in a forthcoming InsetSpace dialog (in Texted). Jürgen

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Helge Hafting
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: I never thought about that... But of course you are right. I think ui-wise, phantoms should be implemented in a forthcoming InsetSpace dialog (in Texted). Good idea. A dialog like: _ short space _ interword space _ enskip _

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jürgen Spitzmüller) writes: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> I never thought about that... But of course you are right. > > I think ui-wise, phantoms should be implemented in a forthcoming InsetSpace > dialog (in Texted). Where would you put the text? JMarc

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jürgen Spitzmüller) writes: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> Where would you put the text? > > Like Helge outlined. The dialog would include a combo with all the predefined > spaces (enspace etc.), then custom for a length (\hspace) and a widget for > text ("Space in the

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Where would you put the text? Like Helge outlined. The dialog would include a combo with all the predefined spaces (enspace etc.), then custom for a length (\hspace) and a widget for text ("Space in the length of the following string"). Jürgen

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > This is not good. The text should be any possible Text Inset (even a > font change would make the metrics bad). Then we need Tommaso's input widget (or a collapsable). Jürgen

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jürgen Spitzmüller) writes: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> This is not good. The text should be any possible Text Inset (even a >> font change would make the metrics bad). > > Then we need Tommaso's input widget (or a collapsable). A collapsable separate from the space inset

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-06 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 08:40:19AM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Uwe Stöhr wrote: > > > I like this phantom feature a lot myself, but I think it qualifies as > > > expert feature. I am not sure it belongs to the toolbar, but I do not > > > oppose it. > > > > The phantom feature is a math

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-05 Thread Uwe Stöhr
was the change from math-insert \choose to math-insert \binom intentional? And if so, why? This is intended because LyX 1.6.0 will have \tbinom and \dbinom. So it will be confusing that the standard binom command is \choose. \choose is identic to \binom. OK I'll postpone this change to LyX

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: OK I'll postpone this change to LyX 1.6.0. Yes, please. Jürgen

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-05 Thread Uwe Stöhr
OK I'll postpone this change to LyX 1.6.0. Yes, please. What about the other changes (fraction, placeholders)? Uwe

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: What about the other changes (fraction, placeholders)? The fraction changes are OK. For the placeholders, I'd like to have some input from math users first. Jürgen

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jürgen Spitzmüller) writes: Uwe Stöhr wrote: What about the other changes (fraction, placeholders)? The fraction changes are OK. For the placeholders, I'd like to have some input from math users first. I like this phantom feature a lot myself, but I think it qualifies

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-05 Thread Uwe Stöhr
I like this phantom feature a lot myself, but I think it qualifies as expert feature. I am not sure it belongs to the toolbar, but I do not oppose it. The phantom feature is a math feature so it should be accessible via the math toolbar. The math toolbar contains much more expert stuff than

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: I like this phantom feature a lot myself, but I think it qualifies as expert feature. I am not sure it belongs to the toolbar, but I do not oppose it. The phantom feature is a math feature No, \phantom, \vphantom and \hphantom are general (plain TeX) commands, which also

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-05 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> was the change from "math-insert > \choose" to "math-insert \binom" intentional? And if so, why? This is intended because LyX 1.6.0 will have \tbinom and \dbinom. So it will be confusing that the standard binom command is \choose. \choose is identic to \binom. OK I'll postpone this change to

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > OK I'll postpone this change to LyX 1.6.0. Yes, please. Jürgen

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-05 Thread Uwe Stöhr
>> OK I'll postpone this change to LyX 1.6.0. > > Yes, please. What about the other changes (fraction, placeholders)? Uwe

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > What about the other changes (fraction, placeholders)? The fraction changes are OK. For the placeholders, I'd like to have some input from math users first. Jürgen

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jürgen Spitzmüller) writes: > Uwe Stöhr wrote: >> What about the other changes (fraction, placeholders)? > > The fraction changes are OK. For the placeholders, I'd like to have some > input > from math users first. I like this phantom feature a lot myself, but I think it

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-05 Thread Uwe Stöhr
I like this phantom feature a lot myself, but I think it qualifies as expert feature. I am not sure it belongs to the toolbar, but I do not oppose it. The phantom feature is a math feature so it should be accessible via the math toolbar. The math toolbar contains much more expert stuff than

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > > I like this phantom feature a lot myself, but I think it qualifies as > > expert feature. I am not sure it belongs to the toolbar, but I do not > > oppose it. > > The phantom feature is a math feature No, \phantom, \vphantom and \hphantom are general (plain TeX) commands,

[patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr
The attached patch registeres placeholders to the math toolbar and clarify some entries. OK for branch? regards Uwe p.s. lyx.org is currently dead Index: stdtoolbars.inc === --- stdtoolbars.inc (revision 21421) +++ stdtoolbars.inc

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-04 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 08:33:59PM +0100, Uwe Stöhr wrote: The attached patch registeres placeholders to the math toolbar and clarify some entries. OK for branch? regards Uwe p.s. lyx.org is currently dead In deep coma. But I did get a commit through... - Martin

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: The attached patch registeres placeholders to the math toolbar and clarify some entries. OK for branch? As I'm no math user, I do not have strong opinions. I guess \phantom is useful. Is it also often used? What do others say? The Fractions changes look good. However, was the

[patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr
The attached patch registeres placeholders to the math toolbar and clarify some entries. OK for branch? regards Uwe p.s. lyx.org is currently dead Index: stdtoolbars.inc === --- stdtoolbars.inc (revision 21421) +++ stdtoolbars.inc

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-04 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 08:33:59PM +0100, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > The attached patch registeres placeholders to the math toolbar and clarify > some entries. > OK for branch? > > regards Uwe > > p.s. lyx.org is currently dead In deep coma. But I did get a commit through... - Martin

Re: [patch] for LyX 1.5.3 register placeholders to the math toolbar

2007-11-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > The attached patch registeres placeholders to the math toolbar and clarify > some entries. OK for branch? As I'm no math user, I do not have strong opinions. I guess \phantom is useful. Is it also often used? What do others say? The Fractions changes look good. However, was