Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-06-01 Thread John Levon
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Allan Rae wrote: Hence my suggested configure warning message. John, such a message would be output at the end of the configure run, just like the ok, this would make sense. thanks john -- IBM's decision to choose the Intel 80x86 processor over the Motorola 680x0

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-06-01 Thread John Levon
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Allan Rae wrote: > Hence my suggested configure warning message. John, such a message > would be output at the end of the configure run, just like the ok, this would make sense. thanks john -- "IBM's decision to choose the Intel 80x86 processor over the Motorola 680x0

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-31 Thread Allan Rae
Dear me-too's, You all use RH7.0 or RH7.1. Mike in his email stated he was using Mdk8.0 just as I currently am. The gcc-2.96-0.48 included therein ICEs on a number of files in the LyX source tree and as (I think) John pointed out they seem to be using a something even older than RH's 2.96-69.

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-31 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Allan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Dear me-too's, | | You all use RH7.0 or RH7.1. Mike in his email stated he was using Mdk8.0 | just as I currently am. The gcc-2.96-0.48 included therein ICEs on a | number of files in the LyX source tree and as (I think) John pointed out | they seem to be

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-31 Thread Allan Rae
Dear me-too's, You all use RH7.0 or RH7.1. Mike in his email stated he was using Mdk8.0 just as I currently am. The gcc-2.96-0.48 included therein ICEs on a number of files in the LyX source tree and as (I think) John pointed out they seem to be using a something even older than RH's 2.96-69.

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-31 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Dear me-too's, | | You all use RH7.0 or RH7.1. Mike in his email stated he was using Mdk8.0 | just as I currently am. The gcc-2.96-0.48 included therein ICEs on a | number of files in the LyX source tree and as (I think) John pointed out | they seem to

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Duncan Simpson
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Allan Rae wrote: message Allan wwas responding to snipped Actually we could perhaps provide a warning message like: Are you serious? GCC-2.96 is unofficial crap! ... and the current version number the mainline gcc sources claim to be is 3,1. I use 3.1

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 29 May 2001 23:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In spite of my whining, I thought I'd sneak in an attempt to compile Angus' natbib branch, since he went to the effort to merge it with the latest main CVS branch. I cruise along okay until I get smacked with the following: Returning to

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Allan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On Wed, 30 May 2001, Allan Rae wrote: | | On Wed, 30 May 2001, John Levon wrote: | I'm not sure if that file will include additional patches from vendor. | If not, they're using a totally broken optimiser. I never got a response | on whether we

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 30-May-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: And I still do not agree... Gcc 2.96 are working close to flawlessly for me. And a lot better than 2.95.2... I agree with this! But of course I_run Gcc 2.96 will all RH patches applied. Well I use RH 7.1 and there are still no gcc patches for this

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Juergen Vigna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On 30-May-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | | And I still do not agree... Gcc 2.96 are working close to flawlessly | for me. And a lot better than 2.95.2... | | I agree with this! | | But of course I_run Gcc 2.96 will all RH patches applied. | |

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:07:55AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Juergen Vigna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On 30-May-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | | And I still do not agree... Gcc 2.96 are working close to flawlessly | for me. And a lot better than 2.95.2... | | I agree with

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread John Levon
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Allan Rae wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2001, Allan Rae wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2001, John Levon wrote: I'm not sure if that file will include additional patches from vendor. If not, they're using a totally broken optimiser. I never got a response on whether we should

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread John Levon
On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Duncan Simpson wrote: Are you serious? GCC-2.96 is unofficial crap! ... and the current version number the mainline gcc sources claim to be is 3,1. I use 3.1 regularly and have the CVS version of gcc 2.95.x for cases when gcc 3.x dumps core. gcc 2.96

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread John Levon
On 30 May 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjønnes wrote: | | Are you serious? GCC-2.96 is unofficial crap! And I still do not agree... Gcc 2.96 are working close to flawlessly for me. And a lot better than 2.95.2... err, bull. Or perhaps you don't remember a few weeks back when lyx

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On 30 May 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjønnes wrote: | | | | | Are you serious? GCC-2.96 is unofficial crap! | | And I still do not agree... Gcc 2.96 are working close to flawlessly | for me. And a lot better than 2.95.2... | | err, bull.

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread mike.ressler
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Angus Leeming wrote: On Tuesday 29 May 2001 23:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In spite of my whining, I thought I'd sneak in an attempt to compile Angus' natbib branch, since he went to the effort to merge it with the latest main CVS branch. I cruise along okay until I

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread John Levon
On 30 May 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjønnes wrote: I remember... the excat reason was never really discovered. Since we failed to come up with a small test case (LyX failes is not one...), we can't really know what was wrong. My guess is till that we do something wrong in LyX that

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | you /clearly/ ignored my mail indicating the broken behaviour in the | particular part of tabular.C then. No, I saw that. But I didn't see a testcase that exibited this error. But sure something was wrong with gcc. | Never mind, a stupid flamewar | about

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread John Levon
On 31 May 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjønnes wrote: John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | you /clearly/ ignored my mail indicating the broken behaviour in the | particular part of tabular.C then. No, I saw that. But I didn't see a testcase that exibited this error. OK. I spent some

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | I believe so yes. I encountered the problem with the latest 7.0 | rpm (-69) and confirmed it fixed in rawhide. Upgrading to 7.1 is certainly | a solution, but bear in mind it costs money to do so (and I can't afford | a spare 5 pounds after a quite

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread John Levon
On 31 May 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjønnes wrote: John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | I believe so yes. I encountered the problem with the latest 7.0 | rpm (-69) and confirmed it fixed in rawhide. Upgrading to 7.1 is certainly | a solution, but bear in mind it costs money to do so

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On 31 May 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjønnes wrote: | | John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | | I believe so yes. I encountered the problem with the latest 7.0 | | rpm (-69) and confirmed it fixed in rawhide. Upgrading to 7.1 is certainly | |

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 02:43:02AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | | because downloading it via a 56k connection isn't an option :) To paraphrase Mr. Tannenbaum: Never underestimate the bandwith of a bag full of floppydisks (or alternatively, harddisks or CD's) There's always

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread John Levon
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 02:43:02AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | | because downloading it via a 56k connection isn't an option :) To paraphrase Mr. Tannenbaum: Never underestimate the bandwith of a bag full of floppydisks (or

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Duncan Simpson
> On Wed, 30 May 2001, Allan Rae wrote: > Actually we could perhaps provide a warning message like: > > Are you serious? GCC-2.96 is unofficial crap! > ... and the current version number the mainline gcc sources claim to be is 3,1. I use 3.1 regularly and have the CVS version of gcc

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 29 May 2001 23:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In spite of my whining, I thought I'd sneak in an attempt to compile > Angus' natbib branch, since he went to the effort to merge it with the > latest main CVS branch. I cruise along okay until I get smacked with the > following: Returning

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On Wed, 30 May 2001, Allan Rae wrote: | | > On Wed, 30 May 2001, John Levon wrote: | > > I'm not sure if that file will include additional patches from vendor. | > > If not, they're using a totally broken optimiser. I never got a response | > > on whether

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 30-May-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > And I still do not agree... Gcc 2.96 are working close to flawlessly > for me. And a lot better than 2.95.2... I agree with this! > But of course I_run Gcc 2.96 will all RH patches applied. Well I use RH 7.1 and there are still no gcc patches for

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On 30-May-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | | > And I still do not agree... Gcc 2.96 are working close to flawlessly | > for me. And a lot better than 2.95.2... | | I agree with this! | | > But of course I_run Gcc 2.96 will all RH patches applied. |

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:07:55AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | On 30-May-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > | > | > And I still do not agree... Gcc 2.96 are working close to flawlessly > | > for me. And a lot better than 2.95.2... > | > |

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread John Levon
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Allan Rae wrote: > On Wed, 30 May 2001, Allan Rae wrote: > > > On Wed, 30 May 2001, John Levon wrote: > > > I'm not sure if that file will include additional patches from vendor. > > > If not, they're using a totally broken optimiser. I never got a response > > > on whether

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread John Levon
On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Duncan Simpson wrote: > > > > Are you serious? GCC-2.96 is unofficial crap! > > > > ... and the current version number the mainline gcc sources claim to be is > 3,1. I use 3.1 regularly and have the CVS version of gcc 2.95.x for cases when > gcc 3.x dumps core. gcc

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread John Levon
On 30 May 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjønnes wrote: > | > | Are you serious? GCC-2.96 is unofficial crap! > > And I still do not agree... Gcc 2.96 are working close to flawlessly > for me. And a lot better than 2.95.2... err, bull. Or perhaps you don't remember a few weeks back when

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On 30 May 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjønnes wrote: | | > | | > | Are you serious? GCC-2.96 is unofficial crap! | > | > And I still do not agree... Gcc 2.96 are working close to flawlessly | > for me. And a lot better than 2.95.2... | | err,

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread mike.ressler
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Angus Leeming wrote: > On Tuesday 29 May 2001 23:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In spite of my whining, I thought I'd sneak in an attempt to compile > > Angus' natbib branch, since he went to the effort to merge it with the > > latest main CVS branch. I cruise along okay

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread John Levon
On 30 May 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjønnes wrote: > I remember... the excat reason was never really discovered. Since we > failed to come up with a small test case (LyX failes is not one...), > we can't really know what was wrong. My guess is till that we do > something wrong in LyX that

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | you /clearly/ ignored my mail indicating the broken behaviour in the | particular part of tabular.C then. No, I saw that. But I didn't see a testcase that exibited this error. But sure something was wrong with gcc. | Never mind, a stupid flamewar |

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread John Levon
On 31 May 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjønnes wrote: > John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | you /clearly/ ignored my mail indicating the broken behaviour in the > | particular part of tabular.C then. > > No, I saw that. But I didn't see a testcase that exibited this error. OK. I

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | I believe so yes. I encountered the problem with the latest 7.0 | rpm (-69) and confirmed it fixed in rawhide. Upgrading to 7.1 is certainly | a solution, but bear in mind it costs money to do so (and I can't afford | a spare 5 pounds after a quite

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread John Levon
On 31 May 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjønnes wrote: > John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | I believe so yes. I encountered the problem with the latest 7.0 > | rpm (-69) and confirmed it fixed in rawhide. Upgrading to 7.1 is certainly > | a solution, but bear in mind it costs money

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On 31 May 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjønnes wrote: | | > John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | > | I believe so yes. I encountered the problem with the latest 7.0 | > | rpm (-69) and confirmed it fixed in rawhide. Upgrading to 7.1 is

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 02:43:02AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > | > | because downloading it via a 56k connection isn't an option :) > > To paraphrase Mr. Tannenbaum: > > "Never underestimate the bandwith of a bag full of floppydisks" > (or alternatively, harddisks or CD's) There's

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-30 Thread John Levon
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 02:43:02AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > | > > | because downloading it via a 56k connection isn't an option :) > > > > To paraphrase Mr. Tannenbaum: > > > > "Never underestimate the bandwith of a bag full of

Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-29 Thread mike.ressler
In spite of my whining, I thought I'd sneak in an attempt to compile Angus' natbib branch, since he went to the effort to merge it with the latest main CVS branch. I cruise along okay until I get smacked with the following: g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../src -I./../ -I../.. -I../..

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-29 Thread John Levon
On Tue, 29 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a Mandrake 8.0 OS with gcc-2.96. Let me know if I'm doing something Mandrake 8.0 comes with some version of RH gcc 2.96 ? Yuck ! What's the RPM version ? I wonder which RH version it's based on. Any RH7.0 gcc will miscompile lyx sometimes.

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-29 Thread mike.ressler
On Wed, 30 May 2001, John Levon wrote: On Tue, 29 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a Mandrake 8.0 OS with gcc-2.96. Let me know if I'm doing something Mandrake 8.0 comes with some version of RH gcc 2.96 ? Yuck ! What's the RPM version ? I wonder which RH version it's based on. Any

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-29 Thread John Levon
On Tue, 29 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2001, John Levon wrote: On Tue, 29 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a Mandrake 8.0 OS with gcc-2.96. Let me know if I'm doing something Mandrake 8.0 comes with some version of RH gcc 2.96 ? Yuck ! What's the RPM

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-29 Thread Allan Rae
On Wed, 30 May 2001, John Levon wrote: On Tue, 29 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2001, John Levon wrote: On Tue, 29 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a Mandrake 8.0 OS with gcc-2.96. Let me know if I'm doing something Mandrake 8.0 comes with some

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-29 Thread Allan Rae
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Allan Rae wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2001, John Levon wrote: I'm not sure if that file will include additional patches from vendor. If not, they're using a totally broken optimiser. I never got a response on whether we should disable optimisation on gcc 2.96 or not ??

Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-29 Thread mike.ressler
In spite of my whining, I thought I'd sneak in an attempt to compile Angus' natbib branch, since he went to the effort to merge it with the latest main CVS branch. I cruise along okay until I get smacked with the following: g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../src -I./../ -I../.. -I../..

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-29 Thread John Levon
On Tue, 29 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's a Mandrake 8.0 OS with gcc-2.96. Let me know if I'm doing something Mandrake 8.0 comes with some version of RH gcc 2.96 ? Yuck ! What's the RPM version ? I wonder which RH version it's based on. Any RH7.0 gcc will miscompile lyx sometimes.

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-29 Thread mike.ressler
On Wed, 30 May 2001, John Levon wrote: > On Tue, 29 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > It's a Mandrake 8.0 OS with gcc-2.96. Let me know if I'm doing something > > Mandrake 8.0 comes with some version of RH gcc 2.96 ? Yuck ! > What's the RPM version ? I wonder which RH version it's based on.

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-29 Thread John Levon
On Tue, 29 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, 30 May 2001, John Levon wrote: > > On Tue, 29 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > It's a Mandrake 8.0 OS with gcc-2.96. Let me know if I'm doing something > > > > Mandrake 8.0 comes with some version of RH gcc 2.96 ? Yuck ! > >

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-29 Thread Allan Rae
On Wed, 30 May 2001, John Levon wrote: > On Tue, 29 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Wed, 30 May 2001, John Levon wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > It's a Mandrake 8.0 OS with gcc-2.96. Let me know if I'm doing something > > > > > > Mandrake 8.0

Re: Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch

2001-05-29 Thread Allan Rae
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Allan Rae wrote: > On Wed, 30 May 2001, John Levon wrote: > > I'm not sure if that file will include additional patches from vendor. > > If not, they're using a totally broken optimiser. I never got a response > > on whether we should disable optimisation on gcc 2.96 or not