On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 03:42:34AM -0700, Mostafa Vahedi wrote:
I will do the documentation job if nobody likes it :-)
I saw the code and it is not that hard to understand
Mostafa
Great!
- Martin
Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My theory is that Dekel (who I think
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Abdelrazak == Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Abdelrazak Andre Poenitz wrote:
The main problem is that new features (aka multiple views) crop
up faster than the core can provided the necessary infrastructure,
leading to a mess of 'fixes' just to make it
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 08:22:02PM +0300, Dov Feldstern wrote:
Andre Poenitz wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:38:04AM +0200, Stefan Schimanski
wrote:
What I want to say with this example: the bidi code is in a
very bad state. We are lucky that it is more or less working.
I was about to
Abdelrazak == Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Abdelrazak Andre Poenitz wrote:
The main problem is that new features (aka multiple views) crop
up faster than the core can provided the necessary infrastructure,
leading to a mess of 'fixes' just to make it work. The the
feature's
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Mostafa Vahedi wrote:
I will do the documentation job if nobody likes it :-)
I saw the code and it is not that hard to understand
Pretty impressing considering the statements from others :-)
It's Doxygen that's used for documentation inside the source.
/Christian
--
Mostafa Vahedi wrote:
I will do the documentation job if nobody likes it :-)
I saw the code and it is not that hard to understand
That would be great, Mostafa!
Mostafa
Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My theory is that Dekel (who I think initially
wrote this) knew precisely what
Dov Feldstern wrote:
Mostafa Vahedi wrote:
I will do the documentation job if nobody likes it :-)
I saw the code and it is not that hard to understand
That would be great, Mostafa!
Except, that that may encourage developers to go poking around in there;
and if it really works as well as I
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 02:43:26PM +0300, Dov Feldstern wrote:
Dov Feldstern wrote:
Mostafa Vahedi wrote:
I will do the documentation job if nobody likes it :-)
I saw the code and it is not that hard to understand
That would be great, Mostafa!
Except, that that may encourage developers
I will do the documentation job if nobody likes it :-)
I saw the code and it is not that hard to understand
Mostafa
Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My theory is that Dekel (who I think initially
wrote this) knew precisely what he was doing,
but unfortunately assumed that everyone
I know many may disagree with this suggestion but suggestion does not hurt.
1. Use the well-maintained library FriBiDi
(http://fribidi.freedesktop.org/wiki/) for our BiDi algorithm (in my opinion
Bidi.cpp has [somehow] reinvented FriBiDi library)
2. For the problem of PUNCTUATION + Mixed RTL
Am 01.06.2007 um 15:12 schrieb Mostafa Vahedi:
I know many may disagree with this suggestion but suggestion does
not hurt.
1. Use the well-maintained library FriBiDi (http://
fribidi.freedesktop.org/wiki/) for our BiDi algorithm (in my
opinion Bidi.cpp has [somehow] reinvented FriBiDi
Mostafa Vahedi wrote:
I know many may disagree with this suggestion but suggestion does not hurt.
1. Use the well-maintained library FriBiDi
(http://fribidi.freedesktop.org/wiki/) for our BiDi algorithm (in my opinion
Bidi.cpp has [somehow] reinvented FriBiDi library)
I think you're right
On Friday 01 June 2007 14:37:38 Dov Feldstern wrote:
Stefan is also correct --- I'm not really sure how much of a difference
this will make. The problems we have are not with the implementation of
the bidi algorithm itself, but with how the rest of the code interacts
with this. So using
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 01:30:16PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote:
My theory is that Dekel (who I think initially wrote this) knew
precisely [...]
Probably, otherwise it wouldn't work as well as it does ;-}
what he was doing, but unfortunately assumed that everyone
Andre'
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 03:42:34AM -0700, Mostafa Vahedi wrote:
>
> I will do the documentation job if nobody likes it :-)
> I saw the code and it is not that hard to understand
>
> Mostafa
Great!
- Martin
> Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > My theory is that Dekel (who I
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
"Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Abdelrazak> Andre Poenitz wrote:
The main problem is that new features (aka "multiple views") crop
up faster than the core can provided the necessary infrastructure,
leading to a mess of 'fixes' just to
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 08:22:02PM +0300, Dov Feldstern wrote:
> Andre Poenitz wrote:
> >On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:38:04AM +0200, Stefan Schimanski
> >wrote:
> >>What I want to say with this example: the bidi code is in a
> >>very bad state. We are lucky that it is more or less working.
> >
>
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Abdelrazak> Andre Poenitz wrote:
>> The main problem is that new features (aka "multiple views") crop
>> up faster than the core can provided the necessary infrastructure,
>> leading to a mess of 'fixes' just to make it work. The
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Mostafa Vahedi wrote:
I will do the documentation job if nobody likes it :-)
I saw the code and it is not that hard to understand
Pretty impressing considering the statements from others :-)
It's Doxygen that's used for documentation inside the source.
/Christian
--
Mostafa Vahedi wrote:
I will do the documentation job if nobody likes it :-)
I saw the code and it is not that hard to understand
That would be great, Mostafa!
Mostafa
Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My theory is that Dekel (who I think initially
wrote this) knew precisely what
Dov Feldstern wrote:
Mostafa Vahedi wrote:
I will do the documentation job if nobody likes it :-)
I saw the code and it is not that hard to understand
That would be great, Mostafa!
Except, that that may encourage developers to go poking around in there;
and if it really works as well as I
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 02:43:26PM +0300, Dov Feldstern wrote:
> Dov Feldstern wrote:
> >Mostafa Vahedi wrote:
> >>I will do the documentation job if nobody likes it :-)
> >>I saw the code and it is not that hard to understand
> >
> >That would be great, Mostafa!
>
> Except, that that may
I will do the documentation job if nobody likes it :-)
I saw the code and it is not that hard to understand
Mostafa
Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My theory is that Dekel (who I think initially
> wrote this) knew precisely what he was doing,
> but unfortunately assumed that
I know many may disagree with this suggestion but suggestion does not hurt.
1. Use the well-maintained library FriBiDi
(http://fribidi.freedesktop.org/wiki/) for our BiDi algorithm (in my opinion
Bidi.cpp has [somehow] reinvented FriBiDi library)
2. For the problem of "PUNCTUATION + Mixed RTL
Am 01.06.2007 um 15:12 schrieb Mostafa Vahedi:
I know many may disagree with this suggestion but suggestion does
not hurt.
1. Use the well-maintained library FriBiDi (http://
fribidi.freedesktop.org/wiki/) for our BiDi algorithm (in my
opinion Bidi.cpp has [somehow] reinvented FriBiDi
Mostafa Vahedi wrote:
I know many may disagree with this suggestion but suggestion does not hurt.
1. Use the well-maintained library FriBiDi
(http://fribidi.freedesktop.org/wiki/) for our BiDi algorithm (in my opinion
Bidi.cpp has [somehow] reinvented FriBiDi library)
I think you're right
On Friday 01 June 2007 14:37:38 Dov Feldstern wrote:
> Stefan is also correct --- I'm not really sure how much of a difference
> this will make. The problems we have are not with the implementation of
> the bidi algorithm itself, but with how the rest of the code interacts
> with this. So using
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 01:30:16PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote:
> My theory is that Dekel (who I think initially wrote this) knew
> precisely [...]
Probably, otherwise it wouldn't work as well as it does ;-}
what he was doing, but unfortunately assumed that everyone
Andre'
Hi!
Can anybody please explain me Text::bidi? It keeps a cache of RTL-
LTR levels for a row. But this variable is in the Text class, in
the public section. It does not store for which paragraph or row it
has values. It is accessed from all over the LyX code. At some few
places it is
Stefan Schimanski wrote:
Hi!
Can anybody please explain me Text::bidi? It keeps a cache of RTL-LTR
levels for a row. But this variable is in the Text class, in the public
section. It does not store for which paragraph or row it has values. It
is accessed from all over the LyX code. At some
Am 31.05.2007 um 11:44 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes:
Stefan Schimanski wrote:
Hi!
Can anybody please explain me Text::bidi? It keeps a cache of RTL-
LTR levels for a row. But this variable is in the Text class, in
the public section. It does not store for which paragraph or row
it has
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:38:04AM +0200, Stefan Schimanski wrote:
Can anybody please explain me Text::bidi? It keeps a cache of RTL-
LTR levels for a row. But this variable is in the Text class, in
the public section. It does not store for which paragraph or row it
has values. It is
Stefan Schimanski wrote:
Hi!
Can anybody please explain me Text::bidi? It keeps a cache of RTL-LTR
levels for a row. But this variable is in the Text class, in the public
section. It does not store for which paragraph or row it has values. It
is accessed from all over the LyX code. At some
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:44:06AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
Stefan Schimanski wrote:
Hi!
Can anybody please explain me Text::bidi? It keeps a cache of RTL-LTR
levels for a row. But this variable is in the Text class, in the public
section. It does not store for which paragraph or
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:55:17AM +0200, Stefan Schimanski wrote:
Feel free to unleash yourself and clean up this mess in the 1.6
frame ;-)
That said... are there any tools around supporting refactoring of C++
code like Eclipse can do it for Java?
Partially. The problem is that C++
This is not totally fair. The fact is, it's implementing a well-
known, standard, function. To understand it, you probably have to
read up on the Bidi algorithm (I've never done it thoroughly, I
don't know this code, either, and have been trying to avoid it as
much as possible, partly for
Andre Poenitz wrote:
The main problem is that new features (aka multiple views) crop up
faster than the core can provided the necessary infrastructure, leading
to a mess of 'fixes' just to make it work. The the feature's developer
leaves, nobody understands the code anymore and why a particular
Stefan Schimanski wrote:
But, the fact is that it
works, I've yet to see a problem which is due to the heart of the bidi
algorithm. (Do you think you have found one, now?)
Yes, more or less. We have two bidi algorithms at the moment. One is
inside the Bidi class, the other one in the font
Andre Poenitz wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:38:04AM +0200, Stefan Schimanski wrote:
What I want to say with this example: the bidi code is in a very bad
state. We are lucky that it is more or less working.
I was about to rip it off in the updateInsetsInInsets times as nobody
understood
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 08:22:02PM +0300, Dov Feldstern wrote:
Andre Poenitz wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:38:04AM +0200, Stefan Schimanski wrote:
What I want to say with this example: the bidi code is in a very bad
state. We are lucky that it is more or less working.
I was about to
Andre Poenitz wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 08:22:02PM +0300, Dov Feldstern wrote:
Andre Poenitz wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:38:04AM +0200, Stefan Schimanski wrote:
What I want to say with this example: the bidi code is in a very bad
state. We are lucky that it is more or less
Am 31.05.2007 um 11:44 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes:
Stefan Schimanski wrote:
Hi!
Can anybody please explain me Text::bidi? It keeps a cache of RTL<-
>LTR levels for a row. But this variable is in the Text class, in
the public section. It does not store for which paragraph or row
it has
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:38:04AM +0200, Stefan Schimanski wrote:
> Can anybody please explain me Text::bidi? It keeps a cache of RTL<-
> >LTR levels for a row. But this variable is in the Text class, in
> the public section. It does not store for which paragraph or row it
> has values. It
Stefan Schimanski wrote:
Hi!
Can anybody please explain me Text::bidi? It keeps a cache of RTL<->LTR
levels for a row. But this variable is in the Text class, in the public
section. It does not store for which paragraph or row it has values. It
is accessed from all over the LyX code. At some
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:44:06AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> Stefan Schimanski wrote:
> >Hi!
> >
> >Can anybody please explain me Text::bidi? It keeps a cache of RTL<->LTR
> >levels for a row. But this variable is in the Text class, in the public
> >section. It does not store for which
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:55:17AM +0200, Stefan Schimanski wrote:
> >Feel free to unleash yourself and clean up this mess in the 1.6
> >frame ;-)
>
> That said... are there any tools around supporting refactoring of C++
> code like Eclipse can do it for Java?
Partially. The problem is that
This is not totally fair. The fact is, it's implementing a well-
known, standard, function. To understand it, you probably have to
read up on the Bidi algorithm (I've never done it thoroughly, I
don't know this code, either, and have been trying to avoid it as
much as possible, partly for
Andre Poenitz wrote:
The main problem is that new features (aka "multiple views") crop up
faster than the core can provided the necessary infrastructure, leading
to a mess of 'fixes' just to make it work. The the feature's developer
leaves, nobody understands the code anymore and why a
Stefan Schimanski wrote:
But, the fact is that it
works, I've yet to see a problem which is due to the heart of the bidi
algorithm. (Do you think you have found one, now?)
Yes, more or less. We have two bidi algorithms at the moment. One is
inside the Bidi class, the other one in the font
Andre Poenitz wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:38:04AM +0200, Stefan Schimanski wrote:
What I want to say with this example: the bidi code is in a very bad
state. We are lucky that it is more or less working.
I was about to rip it off in the updateInsetsInInsets times as nobody
understood
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 08:22:02PM +0300, Dov Feldstern wrote:
> Andre Poenitz wrote:
> >On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:38:04AM +0200, Stefan Schimanski wrote:
> >>What I want to say with this example: the bidi code is in a very bad
> >>state. We are lucky that it is more or less working.
> >
> >I
Andre Poenitz wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 08:22:02PM +0300, Dov Feldstern wrote:
Andre Poenitz wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:38:04AM +0200, Stefan Schimanski wrote:
What I want to say with this example: the bidi code is in a very bad
state. We are lucky that it is more or less
Hi!
Can anybody please explain me Text::bidi? It keeps a cache of RTL<-
>LTR levels for a row. But this variable is in the Text class, in
the public section. It does not store for which paragraph or row it
has values. It is accessed from all over the LyX code. At some few
places it is
Stefan Schimanski wrote:
Hi!
Can anybody please explain me Text::bidi? It keeps a cache of RTL<->LTR
levels for a row. But this variable is in the Text class, in the public
section. It does not store for which paragraph or row it has values. It
is accessed from all over the LyX code. At some
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