Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-12-29 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 12:12:05PM +, José Matos wrote: On Saturday 23 December 2006 1:45 pm, Michael Gerz wrote: Jose, all, Hi Michael, ... Anyway, I wish you all happy holidays (*) Michael (*) Yesterday, they mentioned on German television that it is no longer

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-12-29 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, Martin Vermeer wrote: (*) Yesterday, they mentioned on German television that it is no longer politically correct to say Merry Christmas And what about Happy New Year, or will that offend people that are depressed. ;-) That if anything is an implicit christianism. Or

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-12-29 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 12:12:05PM +, José Matos wrote: > On Saturday 23 December 2006 1:45 pm, Michael Gerz wrote: > > Jose, all, > > Hi Michael, ... > > Anyway, I wish you all happy holidays (*) > > > > Michael > > > > (*) Yesterday, they mentioned on German television that it is no

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-12-29 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, Martin Vermeer wrote: (*) Yesterday, they mentioned on German television that it is no longer politically correct to say "Merry Christmas" And what about "Happy New Year", or will that offend people that are depressed. ;-) That if anything is an implicit

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-12-28 Thread José Matos
On Saturday 23 December 2006 1:45 pm, Michael Gerz wrote: Jose, all, Hi Michael, one week of vacation and I didn't manage to write a single line of code :-( I can say the same thing. And don't if I should frown or smile. ;-) As said before, change tracking works in general but

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-12-28 Thread José Matos
On Saturday 23 December 2006 1:45 pm, Michael Gerz wrote: > Jose, all, Hi Michael, > one week of vacation and I didn't manage to write a single line of code :-( I can say the same thing. And don't if I should frown or smile. ;-) > As said before, change tracking works in general but

Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-12-23 Thread Michael Gerz
Jose, all, one week of vacation and I didn't manage to write a single line of code :-( As said before, change tracking works in general but accept/reject change are still seriously broken. If possible, I will work on both functions next week. Given the fact that there are still some real

Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-12-23 Thread Michael Gerz
Jose, all, one week of vacation and I didn't manage to write a single line of code :-( As said before, change tracking works in general but "accept/reject change" are still seriously broken. If possible, I will work on both functions next week. Given the fact that there are still some real

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-07-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andre On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 10:48:24PM +0100, Jose' Matos wrote: Torino (Turin) is a fine place, and I should tell you that they were supporting the french team yesterday. :-) Andre Supporting a French team in Torino? Andre Looks like I lost

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-07-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 10:48:24PM +0100, Jose' Matos wrote: >> Torino (Turin) is a fine place, and I should tell you that they >> were supporting the french team yesterday. :-) Andre> Supporting a French team in Torino? Andre>

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-07-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 10:48:24PM +0100, Jose' Matos wrote: Torino (Turin) is a fine place, and I should tell you that they were supporting the french team yesterday. :-) Supporting a French team in Torino? Looks like I lost track of the village wars in Southern Europe. The only thing

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-07-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 10:48:24PM +0100, Jose' Matos wrote: > Torino (Turin) is a fine place, and I should tell you that they were > supporting the french team yesterday. :-) Supporting a French team in Torino? Looks like I lost track of the village wars in Southern Europe. > The only

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-07-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Michael Gerz wrote: Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: I think we all are frustrated. Then we have at least one thing in common. Or maybe two: I WANT TO HAVE ABDEL BACK IN THIS PROJECTS. No need to shout Michael :-) Abdel, pleease! I might very well succumb to this love declaration, care

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-07-02 Thread Bo Peng
Eventually, I guess we'll work out the management difficulties we have (had?). Welcome back! Your Friday humor triggered another round of discussion and now xform is eventually being removed. Now, you need to split your patch and get to work. :-) Bo

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-07-02 Thread Jose' Matos
On Sunday 02 July 2006 21:57, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Or maybe two: I WANT TO HAVE ABDEL BACK IN THIS PROJECTS. No need to shout Michael :-) I leave you (all) alone for 4 days and is this what you do? ;-) Torino (Turin) is a fine place, and I should tell you that they were supporting

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-07-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Michael Gerz wrote: Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: I think we all are frustrated. Then we have at least one thing in common. Or maybe two: I WANT TO HAVE ABDEL BACK IN THIS PROJECTS. No need to shout Michael :-) Abdel, pleease! I might very well succumb to this love declaration, care

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-07-02 Thread Bo Peng
Eventually, I guess we'll work out the management difficulties we have (had?). Welcome back! Your Friday humor triggered another round of discussion and now xform is eventually being removed. Now, you need to split your patch and get to work. :-) Bo

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-07-02 Thread Jose' Matos
On Sunday 02 July 2006 21:57, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > Or maybe two: I WANT TO HAVE ABDEL BACK IN THIS PROJECTS. > > No need to shout Michael :-) I leave you (all) alone for 4 days and is this what you do? ;-) Torino (Turin) is a fine place, and I should tell you that they were

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-07-01 Thread Michael Gerz
Bo Peng wrote: We do. Developers should be treat as ... developers, and have some freedom of deciding things in their own domains. I mean, let Enrico handle cygwin, let Abdel takes charge of qt4, and if there are disputes, their votes should count as important as Lars. We have to establish a

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-07-01 Thread Michael Gerz
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: I think we all are frustrated. Then we have at least one thing in common. Or maybe two: I WANT TO HAVE ABDEL BACK IN THIS PROJECTS. Abdel, pleease! Michael

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-07-01 Thread Michael Gerz
Bo Peng wrote: We do. Developers should be treat as ... developers, and have some freedom of deciding things in their own domains. I mean, let Enrico handle cygwin, let Abdel takes charge of qt4, and if there are disputes, their votes should count as important as Lars. We have to establish a

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-07-01 Thread Michael Gerz
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: I think we all are frustrated. Then we have at least one thing in common. Or maybe two: I WANT TO HAVE ABDEL BACK IN THIS PROJECTS. Abdel, pleease! Michael

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-06-30 Thread Edwin Leuven
Michael Gerz wrote: Hello, Abdel's retirement really makes me feel sad. I said this a couple of times before: We have a project management problem! And we lost focus. 4 frontends, 3 build systems, and 0.5 developers... ... unbelievable! It seems that I have to make a break for some time.

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-06-30 Thread Bo Peng
Abdel's retirement really makes me feel sad. Me too. Abdel has helped me fight the scons war, and was on my side for many such situations. If this is not only a Friday vent of anger, I may have to retire as well. I said this a couple of times before: We have a project management problem!

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-06-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Abdel's retirement really makes me feel sad. | | Me too. Abdel has helped me fight the scons war, and was on my side | for many such situations. If this is not only a Friday vent of anger, | I may have to retire as well. Which would be a real pitty. I have

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-06-30 Thread Bo Peng
We have four frontends because Lars simply loves his xform frontend, Oh... we are down to that level now... Not exactly. But today is Friday so a little exaggeration is allowed. You are of course aware that xforms is broken in the tree right now because I did not push to have it properly

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-06-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | So you mean we can ignore xform and gtk when implementing new | features? If the value of trunk/xform is only for speed benchmarking, | we can remove/ignore it totally and use 1.4.x. xform. *doh* ... I wish some one had made that statement a bit earlier... I

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-06-30 Thread Edwin Leuven
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | and 0.5 developers... Oh... we are down to that level now... i agree 0.5 is not a lot (and, as bo pointed out, it's friday) ... as you write, there is frustration on many sides. this needs to be sorted out one way or the other. putting one's heels in the sand

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-06-30 Thread Edwin Leuven
Michael Gerz wrote: Hello, Abdel's retirement really makes me feel sad. I said this a couple of times before: We have a project management problem! And we lost focus. > 4 frontends, 3 build systems, and 0.5 developers... ... unbelievable! It seems that I have to make a break for some

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-06-30 Thread Bo Peng
> Abdel's retirement really makes me feel sad. Me too. Abdel has helped me fight the scons war, and was on my side for many such situations. If this is not only a Friday vent of anger, I may have to retire as well. I said this a couple of times before: We have a project management problem!

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-06-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > > Abdel's retirement really makes me feel sad. | | Me too. Abdel has helped me fight the scons war, and was on my side | for many such situations. If this is not only a Friday vent of anger, | I may have to retire as well. Which would be a real pitty.

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-06-30 Thread Bo Peng
We have four frontends because Lars simply loves his xform frontend, Oh... we are down to that level now... Not exactly. But today is Friday so a little exaggeration is allowed. You are of course aware that xforms is broken in the tree right now because I did not push to have it properly

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-06-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | So you mean we can ignore xform and gtk when implementing new | features? If the value of trunk/xform is only for speed benchmarking, | we can remove/ignore it totally and use 1.4.x. xform. *doh* ... I wish some one had made that statement a bit earlier...

Re: Change Tracking - Status Update

2006-06-30 Thread Edwin Leuven
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | > and 0.5 developers... Oh... we are down to that level now... i agree 0.5 is not a lot (and, as bo pointed out, it's friday) ... as you write, there is frustration on many sides. this needs to be sorted out one way or the other. putting one's heels in the